I do not know if this will assist you. Both of the Hotmail accounts that were looping were ones I went to on the Web interface today to change their passwords.
Both ceased to work after I had logged on to them on the Web. It then became clear that both were looping at the attempt by the extension to logon. Both are now working again with b54. When the account is working (with b54) I can provoke the looping to occur again by going to Web interface and changing the password of the account. What also seems to be a reproducible way of ending the loop (at least for me) is: In Thunderbird - remove the password for the Hotmail account Close Thunderbird Restart Thunderbird - I am then prompted for the password and the extension logs on correctly (without looping). I offer this in case you want to try it out (or in case any other readers of this thread are experiencing the looping problem - which they may just see as "nothing is happening"). Given that you maintain very few messages in your Hotmail accounts the problem fixed by b54 is not urgent to you and you may wish to wait for the Webmail Author to review the information and, most likely, provide a newer version. On Nov 22, 5:48 pm, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have indeed read your messages - and that is why I have continued > testing today with b54 (which was working perfectly with all my > Hotmail accounts). > > I have now managed to reproduce the condition I believe you are seeing > on a couple of my Hotmail accounts. In it the Hotmail extension is in > a looping condition trying to login to the Hotmail account and, as you > report, the logs are increasing in size at a rapid rate. > > This extension is prone to break when Hotmail makes changes - and they > do not apply those changes to all accounts at once but stagger them. > Like me you have probably been seeing the messages from Hotmail Live > advising of further changes coming along. It is possible that is the > result of one of those changes and that the accounts owned by the > Webmail Author have not yet been included. > > I have forwarded a log of the problem to the Webmail Author. > > On Nov 22, 8:10 am, tjtechster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > BluesRenegade.. > > > Appreciate your attempt to help, but did you even read my previous > > posts?? > > > There is NO mail, either read or unread in any of my folders.. > > period.. > > My preferences are setup as you recommended.. and have been since > > b49.. > > > AS I previously stated, there is a loop between the hotmail login AND > > the > > cookie manager, that NEVER errors out, and runs indefinitely.. > > > I have possibly traced the problem to issue with a corrupted PW file > > on > > the hotmail server, but am waiting for a reply from hotmail support.. > > > Granted, I may have a problem with the hotmail server, but there still > > is > > an endless loop issue with the extension.. > > > I am just surprised that there is no interest in this looping > > problem, > > and everyone is content to have the extension kinda working? > > > Not trying to "rain on the parade", but without effective error > > checking, > > the extension can cause other issues that may be hard to troubleshoot > > for the average user.. > > > Thanks again for all the comments.. > > > tj > > > On Nov 21, 9:51 pm, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > tjjechster, > > > > you are going to have to learn to accept that there is a very serious > > > flaw in b49 that is fixed in b53, b54 and beyond and that there is no > > > escaping its consequences. > > > > b49 and its predecessors were (it happens - sadly) deliquent in > > > reporting to Thunderbird the full nature of the Thunderbird server. > > > b53 and b54 do report (as required by the POP protocol) the full > > > extent of the Thunderbird server. The result is, that many users will > > > experience a huge re-download - once only - of the contents of the > > > Thunderbird server and its consequent CPU and potential file overload > > > (and very noticeable in the Webmail logs) . > > > > There are alternatives. > > > > They are: > > > > 1) Move all current Inbox messages on the Hotmail server to a custom > > > folder (do *not* define this folder in the folder selection of the > > > Hotmail extension) > > > 2) Use the "download unread messages only" option for the Hotmail > > > account in the Webmail Hotmail extension - normally I would never > > > recommend this unfortunate option (which is not in keeping with the > > > POP protocol) but it will save you a lot of grief in recovering from > > > this problem. However, using this option will mean that absolutely no > > > deletions you make in Thunderbird can be actioned on the Hotmail > > > server. > > > 3) I have examined some other options that require some effort but > > > that avoid (1) and (2) above - for any reader interested please let me > > > know and we can discuss. > > > > On Nov 21, 10:31 am, BluesRenegade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Webmail Author, > > > > > Thanks for your constant work to keep up with all the changes that MSN > > > > and Yahoo keep making to their webmail sites! > > > > > I really appreciate all you do to keep us on Thunderbird. :) > > > > > Since getting the 19b54 version, Hotmail seems to working right again. > > > > YAY!!! (Something it hasn't done since Nov. 4th here.) > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > John > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > To those still having trouble, > > > > > I suggest you visit your Hotmail account, login and see what happens. > > > > > If ANY intermediate windows or prompts come up, make sure you check them > > > > to never show up again or remember your choice (whatever it takes to > > > > prevent them from re-occurring). > > > > > Any extraneous prompts, windows, etc. AFTER you login, will surely hang > > > > Webmail for TB, and cause it to fail to retrieve your mail. > > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > > John > > > > > ========================= > > > > > tjtechster wrote: > > > > > alanrf; > > > > > Appreciate the clarification, but I was reading between the lines of > > > > > your last post.. > > > > > As I previously stated, NO emails in my Inbox... and nothing in any of > > > > > the other folders either.. > > > > > No custom folders, only original folders created during the "create > > > > > account" process.. > > > > > totally clean and empty.. > > > > > > Just to be concise, I am also using web-mail-1-3-3b3 and will be happy > > > > > to send the hotmail & cookie manager logs to anyone that can decipher > > > > > them.. > > > > > > FYI, This is being done at the request of one of my clients.. > > > > > > thanks for the followup.. > > > > > > On Nov 21, 12:43 am, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> I really should be more precise in my questions. The question should > > > > >> have been: > > > > > >> Do you have a large number of messages in the total of your Inbox and > > > > >> any custom folders you have also asked the Hotmail extension to > > > > >> download? > > > > > >> On Nov 21, 12:01 am, tjtechster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>> I do not have a large inbox in hotmail, in fact, it's empty.. > > > > >>> As I previously stated the b49 version is working fine with the > > > > >>> exception of intermittent password refusals. > > > > > >>> b54 is causing a loop in Thunderbird's cookie manager and according > > > > >>> to > > > > >>> the cookie manager log, it just re-writes the cookies continuously.. > > > > >>> Now whether this is caused by it a loop in the b54 login routine, I > > > > >>> can't say, but both log files get very large very fast due to the > > > > >>> loop > > > > >>> and cpu usage increases to 12-15% (normally at <1%) until I exit > > > > >>> TB.. > > > > >>> I did let the loop run for well over 20 mins., so it's not an issue > > > > >>> with slow response.. > > > > > >>> After downgraded to b49, and none of these symptoms are present, so > > > > >>> it > > > > >>> is definitely b54, (FYI: b53 does it too) > > > > >>> All logs look normal, unlike the b54 logs, and they stop growing > > > > >>> immediately.. > > > > > >>> I wish it was as simple as an oversized inbox, but that ain't it.. > > > > > >>> thanks for tryin' > > > > > >>> tj > > > > > >>> On Nov 20, 5:10 pm, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>>> I believe b54 is working just fine (it is for all of my WebDav and > > > > >>>> non- > > > > >>>> WebDav accounts). > > > > > >>>> However, I suspect that you are being affected by the fact that b54 > > > > >>>> fixes a problem that has been in the previous test versions. > > > > >>>> It will mean that anyone using the fixed Hotmail extension will, if > > > > >>>> they have a large Inbox on Hotmail, face this type of problem. The > > > > >>>> Webmail Author cannot prevent this for you unfortunately. > > > > > >>>> Do you have a large Inbox on Hotmail? > > > > > >>>> On Nov 20, 4:10 pm, tjtechster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>>>> Previous version of hotmail-1-2-19b49 was intermittently asking > > > > >>>>> for > > > > >>>>> password, so I just installed the latest hotmail-1-2-19b54 and now > > > > >>>>> when I start Thunderbird, the process never stops and seems to > > > > >>>>> maintain a constant connection to hotmail?? It is also consuming > > > > >>>>> memory AND a consistant ~12% cpu usage. > > > > > >>>>> I can close Thunderbird and as soon as the process closes and cpu > > > > >>>>> usage returns to 1%. There are no errors in the "Error Console". > > > > >>>>> Also > > > > >>>>> both the Thunderbird hotmail.log and Cookiemanager.txt > > > > >>>>> continuously > > > > >>>>> grow larger.. Looks like there is a loop in the create cookie > > > > >>>>> routine.. > > > > > >>>>> Let me know if you want the logs and where to send them to, and I > > > > >>>>> will > > > > >>>>> get them to you asap.. > > > > > >>>>> Will revert to b49 till this is resolved.. > > > > > >>>>> Thanks again for all the work!! > > > > > >>>>> tj --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thunderbird Webmail Extension" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
