Thanks for the followthru, will test it out as soon as I have access to my hotmail account again.. Seems that it's either been hijacked or the credentials have been corrupted on the server, as I can no longer log into my account, and none of the online recovery operations seem to work either..
What I have learned since my last post is that the extension does NOT time out when it receives messages to the effect of: "You've tried to sign in too many times with an incorrect e-mail address or password". So it just repeats the login process.. I have reported the issue to hotmail support, and hope to have it resolved soon.. Thanks to both you and Webmail Author for all the work.. On Nov 22, 6:26 pm, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not know if this will assist you. > > Both of the Hotmail accounts that were looping were ones I went to on > the Web interface today to change their passwords. > > Both ceased to work after I had logged on to them on the Web. It then > became clear that both were looping at the attempt by the extension to > logon. > > Both are now working again with b54. When the account is working > (with b54) I can provoke the looping to occur again by going to Web > interface and changing the password of the account. > > What also seems to be a reproducible way of ending the loop (at least > for me) is: > > In Thunderbird - remove the password for the Hotmail account > Close Thunderbird > Restart Thunderbird - I am then prompted for the password and the > extension logs on correctly (without looping). > > I offer this in case you want to try it out (or in case any other > readers of this thread are experiencing the looping problem - which > they may just see as "nothing is happening"). Given that you maintain > very few messages in your Hotmail accounts the problem fixed by b54 is > not urgent to you and you may wish to wait for the Webmail Author to > review the information and, most likely, provide a newer version. > > On Nov 22, 5:48 pm, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have indeed read your messages - and that is why I have continued > > testing today with b54 (which was working perfectly with all my > > Hotmail accounts). > > > I have now managed to reproduce the condition I believe you are seeing > > on a couple of my Hotmail accounts. In it the Hotmail extension is in > > a looping condition trying to login to the Hotmail account and, as you > > report, the logs are increasing in size at a rapid rate. > > > This extension is prone to break when Hotmail makes changes - and they > > do not apply those changes to all accounts at once but stagger them. > > Like me you have probably been seeing the messages from Hotmail Live > > advising of further changes coming along. It is possible that is the > > result of one of those changes and that the accounts owned by the > > Webmail Author have not yet been included. > > > I have forwarded a log of the problem to the Webmail Author. > > > On Nov 22, 8:10 am, tjtechster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > BluesRenegade.. > > > > Appreciate your attempt to help, but did you even read my previous > > > posts?? > > > > There is NO mail, either read or unread in any of my folders.. > > > period.. > > > My preferences are setup as you recommended.. and have been since > > > b49.. > > > > AS I previously stated, there is a loop between the hotmail login AND > > > the > > > cookie manager, that NEVER errors out, and runs indefinitely.. > > > > I have possibly traced the problem to issue with a corrupted PW file > > > on > > > the hotmail server, but am waiting for a reply from hotmail support.. > > > > Granted, I may have a problem with the hotmail server, but there still > > > is > > > an endless loop issue with the extension.. > > > > I am just surprised that there is no interest in this looping > > > problem, > > > and everyone is content to have the extension kinda working? > > > > Not trying to "rain on the parade", but without effective error > > > checking, > > > the extension can cause other issues that may be hard to troubleshoot > > > for the average user.. > > > > Thanks again for all the comments.. > > > > tj > > > > On Nov 21, 9:51 pm, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > tjjechster, > > > > > you are going to have to learn to accept that there is a very serious > > > > flaw in b49 that is fixed in b53, b54 and beyond and that there is no > > > > escaping its consequences. > > > > > b49 and its predecessors were (it happens - sadly) deliquent in > > > > reporting to Thunderbird the full nature of the Thunderbird server. > > > > b53 and b54 do report (as required by the POP protocol) the full > > > > extent of the Thunderbird server. The result is, that many users will > > > > experience a huge re-download - once only - of the contents of the > > > > Thunderbird server and its consequent CPU and potential file overload > > > > (and very noticeable in the Webmail logs) . > > > > > There are alternatives. > > > > > They are: > > > > > 1) Move all current Inbox messages on the Hotmail server to a custom > > > > folder (do *not* define this folder in the folder selection of the > > > > Hotmail extension) > > > > 2) Use the "download unread messages only" option for the Hotmail > > > > account in the Webmail Hotmail extension - normally I would never > > > > recommend this unfortunate option (which is not in keeping with the > > > > POP protocol) but it will save you a lot of grief in recovering from > > > > this problem. However, using this option will mean that absolutely no > > > > deletions you make in Thunderbird can be actioned on the Hotmail > > > > server. > > > > 3) I have examined some other options that require some effort but > > > > that avoid (1) and (2) above - for any reader interested please let me > > > > know and we can discuss. > > > > > On Nov 21, 10:31 am, BluesRenegade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Webmail Author, > > > > > > Thanks for your constant work to keep up with all the changes that MSN > > > > > and Yahoo keep making to their webmail sites! > > > > > > I really appreciate all you do to keep us on Thunderbird. :) > > > > > > Since getting the 19b54 version, Hotmail seems to working right > > > > > again. > > > > > YAY!!! (Something it hasn't done since Nov. 4th here.) > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > John > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > To those still having trouble, > > > > > > I suggest you visit your Hotmail account, login and see what happens. > > > > > > If ANY intermediate windows or prompts come up, make sure you check > > > > > them > > > > > to never show up again or remember your choice (whatever it takes to > > > > > prevent them from re-occurring). > > > > > > Any extraneous prompts, windows, etc. AFTER you login, will surely > > > > > hang > > > > > Webmail for TB, and cause it to fail to retrieve your mail. > > > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > > > John > > > > > > ========================= > > > > > > tjtechster wrote: > > > > > > alanrf; > > > > > > Appreciate the clarification, but I was reading between the lines of > > > > > > your last post.. > > > > > > As I previously stated, NO emails in my Inbox... and nothing in any > > > > > > of > > > > > > the other folders either.. > > > > > > No custom folders, only original folders created during the "create > > > > > > account" process.. > > > > > > totally clean and empty.. > > > > > > > Just to be concise, I am also using web-mail-1-3-3b3 and will be > > > > > > happy > > > > > > to send the hotmail & cookie manager logs to anyone that can > > > > > > decipher > > > > > > them.. > > > > > > > FYI, This is being done at the request of one of my clients.. > > > > > > > thanks for the followup.. > > > > > > > On Nov 21, 12:43 am, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >> I really should be more precise in my questions. The question > > > > > >> should > > > > > >> have been: > > > > > > >> Do you have a large number of messages in the total of your Inbox > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> any custom folders you have also asked the Hotmail extension to > > > > > >> download? > > > > > > >> On Nov 21, 12:01 am, tjtechster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >>> I do not have a large inbox in hotmail, in fact, it's empty.. > > > > > >>> As I previously stated the b49 version is working fine with the > > > > > >>> exception of intermittent password refusals. > > > > > > >>> b54 is causing a loop in Thunderbird's cookie manager and > > > > > >>> according to > > > > > >>> the cookie manager log, it just re-writes the cookies > > > > > >>> continuously.. > > > > > >>> Now whether this is caused by it a loop in the b54 login routine, > > > > > >>> I > > > > > >>> can't say, but both log files get very large very fast due to the > > > > > >>> loop > > > > > >>> and cpu usage increases to 12-15% (normally at <1%) until I exit > > > > > >>> TB.. > > > > > >>> I did let the loop run for well over 20 mins., so it's not an > > > > > >>> issue > > > > > >>> with slow response.. > > > > > > >>> After downgraded to b49, and none of these symptoms are present, > > > > > >>> so it > > > > > >>> is definitely b54, (FYI: b53 does it too) > > > > > >>> All logs look normal, unlike the b54 logs, and they stop growing > > > > > >>> immediately.. > > > > > > >>> I wish it was as simple as an oversized inbox, but that ain't it.. > > > > > > >>> thanks for tryin' > > > > > > >>> tj > > > > > > >>> On Nov 20, 5:10 pm, alanrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> I believe b54 is working just fine (it is for all of my WebDav > > > > > >>>> and non- > > > > > >>>> WebDav accounts). > > > > > > >>>> However, I suspect that you are being affected by the fact that > > > > > >>>> b54 > > > > > >>>> fixes a problem that has been in the previous test versions. > > > > > >>>> It will mean that anyone using the fixed Hotmail extension will, > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > >>>> they have a large Inbox on Hotmail, face this type of problem. > > > > > >>>> The > > > > > >>>> Webmail Author cannot prevent this for you unfortunately. > > > > > > >>>> Do you have a large Inbox on Hotmail? > > > > > > >>>> On Nov 20, 4:10 pm, tjtechster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> Previous version of hotmail-1-2-19b49 was intermittently asking > > > > > >>>>> for > > > > > >>>>> password, so I just installed the latest hotmail-1-2-19b54 and > > > > > >>>>> now > > > > > >>>>> when I start Thunderbird, the process never stops and seems to > > > > > >>>>> maintain a constant connection to hotmail?? It is also consuming > > > > > >>>>> memory AND a consistant ~12% cpu usage. > > > > > > >>>>> I can close Thunderbird and as soon as the process closes and > > > > > >>>>> cpu > > > > > >>>>> usage returns to 1%. There are no errors in the "Error > > > > > >>>>> Console". Also > > > > > >>>>> both the Thunderbird hotmail.log and Cookiemanager.txt > > > > > >>>>> continuously > > > > > >>>>> grow larger.. Looks like there is a loop in the create cookie > > > > > >>>>> routine.. > > > > > > >>>>> Let me know if you want the logs and where to send them > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thunderbird Webmail Extension" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
