Sounds counter-intuitive, but I've just checked it nevertheless.

Nope, 400 is much worse in my case.

The circumstantial evidence I have so far is pointing to tags...

On Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:49:30 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I you know, I think experienced this before, and commented. Try resetting 
> the timeout back to 400 and reloading.
>
> After setting the TO to 60000, it feels *slower* when typing into the 
> input box.
>
> On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 5:53:07 AM UTC-7, Hubert wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>  
>>
>>> Just testing now, and setting it to 60000 doesn't seem to impact the 
>>> speed with regular editing nor inside a form box.
>>>
>>
>> Have you reloaded the wiki after setting it to 60000? It might not take 
>> effect until reloaded.
>>
>> Is there anything special about your TW file? Have you tested on an empty 
>>> ?
>>>
>>
>> No and yes, respectively.
>>
>> The lag on mobile may be more or less noticeable, which could even depend 
>> on the size of the wiki and/or on the number of tiddlers currently open. I 
>> lack the knowledge to draw conclusions but I do suspect it has to do with 
>> the refresh mechanism.
>>
>> BTW. my wiki is just slightly over 5 megs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hubert
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:15:04 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I've mentioned typing speeds in the past. I never found that the draft 
>>> speed setting really changed anything one
>>> way or the other. Maybe it makes a difference on Mac but not on Android.
>>>
>>> Just testing now, and setting it to 60000 doesn't seem to impact the 
>>> speed with regular editing nor inside a form box.
>>>
>>> Is there anything special about your TW file? Have you tested on an 
>>> empty ?
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:49:43 PM UTC-7, Hubert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> What vintage is your phone?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's a fairly recent midrange Motorola. 
>>>>
>>>> What version of TW are you using? There are size/speed improvements in 
>>>>> 5.1.20.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm using the latest stable TW version (5.1.21).
>>>>
>>>> I tried your test on the full downloaded TiddlyWiki.com page on my 2012 
>>>>> era samsung phone. The speed of course was slow, but it was the same for 
>>>>> the edit box as for editing the tiddler itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for having a go with the test on mobile. Have you modified the 
>>>> TypingTimeout value before testing? I'm having a "native" (no lag) typing 
>>>> experience when editing a tiddler after setting the value in 
>>>> $:/config/Drafts/TypingTimeout to 60000. By default, this value is around 
>>>> 400 (ms), which results in a noticeable lag in my case, so just wondering.
>>>>
>>>> You probably know this already, but be sure to not have your "recent" 
>>>>> tiddler opened in the sidebar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I do :). I have it disabled across the whole wiki.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:55:31 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What vintage is your phone?
>>>>>
>>>>> What version of TW are you using? There are size/speed improvements in 
>>>>> 5.1.20.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried your test on the full downloaded TiddlyWiki.com page on my 
>>>>> 2012 era samsung phone. The speed of course was slow, but it was the same
>>>>> for the edit box as for editing the tiddler itself. In either case, 
>>>>> the upper limit to typing was my ability to use the tiny keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> You probably know this already, but be sure to not have your "recent" 
>>>>> tiddler opened in the sidebar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 at 7:47:00 AM UTC-7, Hubert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before I go into details, my $:/config/Drafts/TypingTimeout tiddler 
>>>>>> has a value of 60000 (60 seconds), which fixed the lag when entering 
>>>>>> text / 
>>>>>> typing in a tiddler in edit mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I'm still experiencing lag when entering text using 
>>>>>> <$edit-text/> widgets (of course, the tiddler being populated as I type 
>>>>>> is 
>>>>>> separate to the one that has the edit-text widget).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This lag is negligible on my Chromebook or Windows PC (I have no 
>>>>>> means of measuring it but even if it's 5ms then it's not much to worry 
>>>>>> about) but it is very noticeable on Android (using Chrome as an 
>>>>>> example). 
>>>>>> It gets better if I close all tiddlers except the one that has the 
>>>>>> <$edit-text/> widget and I assume that the lag has to do with TiddlyWiki 
>>>>>> re-rendering all the open tiddlers as I type (though I'm not sure if 
>>>>>> that's 
>>>>>> the case).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly is introducing the lag when using <$edit-text/> widgets? 
>>>>>> Is it realtime rendering? If so, could the scope of 
>>>>>> $:/config/Drafts/TypingTimeout be extended to also include <$edit-text/> 
>>>>>> widgets, so that the lag is fixed at the expense of instantaneous 
>>>>>> rendering? Is there any other mechanism that is at fault here? I do not 
>>>>>> believe that we should require a multicore workstation to have a smooth 
>>>>>> typing experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Typing into a tiddler in edit mode and entering text in a password 
>>>>>> prompt both work with absolutely no lag on mobile (this is the 'native' 
>>>>>> typing feel), but these are the only two examples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The <$range/> widget seems to suffer from the same lag occasionally 
>>>>>> (it's not super smooth) but I'm not sure if it's affected by the same 
>>>>>> root 
>>>>>> cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, apologies for awkward phrasing; English is not my first 
>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>> Hubert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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