Hello

I'm skeptical if switching away from the name TiddlyWiki will really entice 
more people to start using TiddlyWiki. It seems more of the issues are less 
about the name, but more of the initial technical hurdle to save changes. 
TiddlyWiki requires the user to set up some sort of saving mechanism. 
Obviously those of us here are all familiar with our chosen particular 
method, but the initial user may not always figure out what will be the 
most effective method for them, especially if they are using TiddlyWiki in 
a constrained corporate environment.

Just my 2 cents, but it would be a shame to change the name and concept of 
tiddlers but still retain the same sort of underlying complexity and not 
really create a large increase in the user base.

Thanks
Mark Kerrigan

On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 2:02:38 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jeremy,
>
> Some carefully considered thoughts follow;
>
> I agree a name change may be necessary despite my contentment with it, 
> others seem to read it differently, the recent podcaste that made reference 
> to it is a case in point. However we have a clear legacy of plugins and 
> editions and solutions out there for which searching tiddlywiki will find 
> the results, as a result "tiddlywiki can not be forgotten", perhaps ever.
>
> Thus I think this needs a strategy to accompany a name change. One 
> approach is to promote tiddlywiki with a catch phrase that sheds light on 
> its function and potentially contains the new name, eventually the new name 
> emerges from the catch phrase and becomes the primary name. With the 
> community aware of this we have time with updates to get the new name 
> embedded in material on the internet.
>
> In a previous discussion  I suggested starting with a catch phrase to 
> accompany the name wherever possible of the top of my head, "Tiddlywiki a 
> website, application, wiki database and a smart document platform". 
> Personally I really like the broad word "platform" because it sounds 
> complete and diverse whilst also "ready to go" out of the box.
>
> One thing is for sure that tiddlywiki and tiddler are sufficiently rare 
> that they have served us well, choosing a new name badly could send us into 
> search engine oblivion even if it describes tiddlywiki well.
>
> To find a name, Perhaps the first questions is where do we want people to 
> see tiddlywiki? I think Wiki is a strong though incomplete way of 
> describing tiddlywiki but wiki can be in the catch phrase, where else do we 
> want it to be seen?
>
> Perhaps we can make it's key weakness an advantage, its weakness is its 
> diversity of uses, where none should be emphasised over the others, so 
> trawling the english language for an uncommon word that reflects this could 
> be the source of a name, then we need to look for alternatives in other 
> languages. Usually the larger words are common across multiple languages.
>
> Can we use the "TW" and redefine it in some way to Totally(awesome)Wiki 
> platform. 
>
> I do think perhaps the release of TW6/X would be the time to re-label and 
> the tiddler and tiddlywiki must remain in the empty file such as 
> "[TotalWiki] the next generation of tiddlywiki". The references discussions 
> and prior to this next generation needs to remain searchable and well known.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 5:28:06 AM UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>>
>> A wave started which could make TiddlyWiki more and more famous. *Now* 
>> we might need to make it really user-friendly, so that new people can 
>> easily get over the initial difficulties and stay with Tiddly.
>>
>>
>> https://hackaday.com/2020/02/14/it-aint-over-til-the-paperwork-is-done-test-driving-tiddlywiki/
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/43fd62ee-e24d-4436-a532-c1443bed59c9%40googlegroups.com.

Reply via email to