Ciao PMario & TonyM

IMO PMario is right for something that could be shared one needs to avoid 
ambiguity. Two key points, I think ...

1 - Stating the obvious: any extension of (PUBLIC shared) wikitext needs to 
be elegant and minimalist. Retention of human readability is paramount.
There is an ISSUE of scope limitation due simply to the fact the repertoire 
of available marker symbols is limited. 
*Usage of them should be as restrained as possible.*

2 - For PRIVATE developed wiki any schema, in theory, could be used. For my 
own use I use BJ's pre-parser to have lines starting ".r1", ".c5" etc for 
specialist layouts. I'd never make that public. Too confusing.

My point? I'm still unclear whether TonyM would be best served via (1) or 
(2).

What I would say is that ability for end-user to easier make a personal 
ad-hoc "rough-parser" is something Good, not bad.

Best wishes
TT

On Friday, 6 March 2020 13:31:37 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 11:53:51 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
> ...
>  
>
>> **item 1 no matching"*" Eroniouse dot to left
>> **item 2
>>
>> <ul><ul>
>> <li>item 1 no matching"*" no eroniouse dot to left</li>
>> <li>item 2</li>
>> </ul></ul>
>>
>> :::*List items indented
>> :::*list
>>
>
> hmmm, 
> I think there are several problems here. Some are technical and others are 
> psychological. 
>
> a) tech) If you want to change the indentation level later, you'll need to 
> touch every line of the text. 
>
> b) psych) Readers may be confused, because there may be different indent 
> levels, which otherwise look the same. 
>
> add a)
>
> You use it wrong. 
>
> ** Means "create a nested unordered list". see the docs 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Lists%20in%20WikiText>. 
> There is no error. TW displays, what you told it to do. ... It may be 
> different to what you expect, but that's it.
>
> * You miss level 1 text here. <-- that's the error you made.
> **item 1 no matching"*" Eroniouse dot to left
> **item 2
>
> The solution is simple: Create a little bit of CSS
>
> .tc-tiddler-preview .in, 
> .tc-tiddler-body .in {
>   margin-left: 2em; 
> }
>
> and us
>
> *.in You miss level 1 text here. 
> **item 1 
> **item 2
>
> see attached file. 
>
> ------------------------
>
> Add b)
>
> :::*List items indented
> :::*list
>
> Depending on the indentation level you use, your readers will see the 
> difference. .. The problem is, that there is no other difference. eg: 
>
>    - List items indented
>    - List
>
>
>    - List items indented
>    - List
>
>
>    - List items indented
>    - List
>
> So the problem now is. Which list is more important. The one on the left 
> or the one on the right. With a list as above it may be clear. BUT
>
>    - List items indented
>    - List
>
> What happens if there is more text in between. So the question I have now 
> is: "Why is the list below more indented as the list above"
> Is there a problem with the formatting, or does it mean something. 
>
>    - List items indented
>    - List
>
> I personally wouldn't use indented lists that look "like level 1 lists". 
> IMO they only confuse readers. 
>
> *If we need indentation, it needs to look different AND the difference 
> must have a meaning*. 
>
> "It looks nicer" *is not* a valid argument, since "taste" is different 
> for every user. 
>
> Possibilities can be seen at MDN CCS info 
> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/list-style-type#%3Ccustom-ident%3E>
>  
> page. 
>
> -mario
>

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