Thanks, everyone, for responding. I struggle with the more technical side of TiddlyWiki, but so far wrangling it has felt worthwhile. Good to know that I should steer clear of list-before/-after for this purpose. I was looking for any tool that might do the job and am not clear on best practice.
Mark, I'm intrigued by your post as a beginner and will have to take some time to figure out what each part actually does. It certainly reminds me that I should learn how to use regular expressions. Avoiding "===" is not a problem! And then I suppose one could set up redirects like Wikipedia has to send the missing Bell Jar tiddler on to The Bell Jar? (Or transclusion?) My issue, though, is that I wish one thing could be used for sorting (Bell Jar) and another returned for display (The Bell Jar). Displaying "Bell Jar" is functionally pretty similar to naming the tiddler "Bell Jar" when it comes to all my lists. Mat, your post was deleted as I was responding, but here was what I had typed: Mat, that's an interesting solution! But I can't seem to get it to work? It actually seems to do the inverse--it sorts as if the "The" was present, but displays "Bell Jar". For example, I tested just a small selection of titles, two with an initial "The", and the resulting list appeared in this order: Bag of Bones, Beatrix, Tales from Earthsea, Bell Jar, Tempest, Treasure Island. (Am I using the filter incorrectly? My filter was just based on a temporary tag, so all it is, is filter="[tag[book1]]".) I'm willing to accept that perhaps TiddlyWiki doesn't yet have the functionality I want, but either way, I appreciate the look at different ways to problem-solve. Also, would it be worthwhile to join Github and chime in with some support for the feature on that thread? I don't know if it's meant mostly for technical suggestions and solutions, or if a simple confirmation that another person would find such a feature useful is... useful. On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 11:28:29 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: > > This can do it for standard A/An/The and as long as you don't mind that no > title can have === in it. You can pick some other unique set of characters > if you're careful. > > > \define titleprep() > <$vars lb="[[" rb="]]"> > <$list filter="[tag[mysort]]" > > <$list filter= > "[all[current]splitregexp[^The\s]splitregexp[^A\s]splitregexp[^An\s]!is[blank]]" > > variable="fixedtitle"> > <<lb>><<fixedtitle>>===<<currentTiddler>><<rb>><br/> > </$list> > </$list> > </$vars> > \end > > <$wikify text=<<titleprep>> name=sortedtitles> > <$list filter="[enlist<sortedtitles>sort[]splitregexp[===.*]]"> > > </$list> > </$wikify> > > Here's my example of before and after (screenshot should show here) : > > > > > > On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 7:46:39 AM UTC-7, PS wrote: >> >> Is there a good way to use the list-before or list-after field to allow >> sorting of tiddlers that ignores a/an/the at the beginning of titles? >> >> For example, I was thinking the way it worked would allow you to put >> "Bell Jar" for the list-after field of a tiddler called "The Bell Jar", and >> then as long as I didn't specify sort[title], it would put The Bell Jar in >> place after the imaginary tiddler "Bell Jar" and sort anything without one >> of those fields in the straightforward alphabetic way. But it turns out >> that the tiddler in list-after or list-before has to actually exist, I >> guess? At least, it only works if, say, I tell it to list after "Bag of >> Bones", which does exist. But what if I make a tiddler called Beatrix, >> which ought to be in between? Now I have to remember to go back into The >> Bell Jar and update the sorting again, which could get very tedious and is >> prone to error. >> >> Please tell me there's a good way to handle sorting with a/an/the, even a >> different method, short of going the old route of tacking the offending >> article back on to the end! >> >> Right now, the only other thing I can think of is creating a new field on >> every single tiddler I'd want to sort as an alternate title field to use >> when sorting, and I'd rather avoid that. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/364ba761-b022-4c5e-846b-95fd6ab505b5%40googlegroups.com.
