By "redirects" I assume you meant links? Yes, I could have added it with a few more minutes.
Actually, the easiest way to deal with the situation is to create a "sortby", "caption", or "descriptoin" field. That field could in turn be populated by a button that you would activate whenever you want to see a "report" of your titles.This not only covers the "obvious" situations where a title starts with A/An/The, but others where you might want it to sort by something entirely different. Like you might want to sort "Suicide is Painless" as "M.A.S.H. Theme song". I don't think a sort-without-articles is a standard tool in most programming APIs. So you might as well find a good solution and settle in. On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:47:31 AM UTC-7, PS wrote: > Thanks, everyone, for responding. I struggle with the more technical side > of TiddlyWiki, but so far wrangling it has felt worthwhile. Good to know > that I should steer clear of list-before/-after for this purpose. I was > looking for any tool that might do the job and am not clear on best > practice. > > Mark, I'm intrigued by your post as a beginner and will have to take some > time to figure out what each part actually does. It certainly reminds me > that I should learn how to use regular expressions. Avoiding "===" is not a > problem! And then I suppose one could set up redirects like Wikipedia has > to send the missing Bell Jar tiddler on to The Bell Jar? (Or transclusion?) > My issue, though, is that I wish one thing could be used for sorting (Bell > Jar) and another returned for display (The Bell Jar). Displaying "Bell Jar" > is functionally pretty similar to naming the tiddler "Bell Jar" when it > comes to all my lists. > > Mat, your post was deleted as I was responding, but here was what I had > typed: Mat, that's an interesting solution! But I can't seem to get it to > work? It actually seems to do the inverse--it sorts as if the "The" was > present, but displays "Bell Jar". For example, I tested just a small > selection of titles, two with an initial "The", and the resulting list > appeared in this order: Bag of Bones, Beatrix, Tales from Earthsea, Bell > Jar, Tempest, Treasure Island. (Am I using the filter incorrectly? My > filter was just based on a temporary tag, so all it is, is > filter="[tag[book1]]".) > > I'm willing to accept that perhaps TiddlyWiki doesn't yet have the > functionality I want, but either way, I appreciate the look at different > ways to problem-solve. > > Also, would it be worthwhile to join Github and chime in with some support > for the feature on that thread? I don't know if it's meant mostly for > technical suggestions and solutions, or if a simple confirmation that > another person would find such a feature useful is... useful. > > On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 11:28:29 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: >> >> This can do it for standard A/An/The and as long as you don't mind that >> no title can have === in it. You can pick some other unique set of >> characters if you're careful. >> >> >> \define titleprep() >> <$vars lb="[[" rb="]]"> >> <$list filter="[tag[mysort]]" > >> <$list filter= >> "[all[current]splitregexp[^The\s]splitregexp[^A\s]splitregexp[^An\s]!is[blank]]" >> >> variable="fixedtitle"> >> <<lb>><<fixedtitle>>===<<currentTiddler>><<rb>><br/> >> </$list> >> </$list> >> </$vars> >> \end >> >> <$wikify text=<<titleprep>> name=sortedtitles> >> <$list filter="[enlist<sortedtitles>sort[]splitregexp[===.*]]"> >> >> </$list> >> </$wikify> >> >> Here's my example of before and after (screenshot should show here) : >> >> >> >> >> >> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 7:46:39 AM UTC-7, PS wrote: >>> >>> Is there a good way to use the list-before or list-after field to allow >>> sorting of tiddlers that ignores a/an/the at the beginning of titles? >>> >>> For example, I was thinking the way it worked would allow you to put >>> "Bell Jar" for the list-after field of a tiddler called "The Bell Jar", and >>> then as long as I didn't specify sort[title], it would put The Bell Jar in >>> place after the imaginary tiddler "Bell Jar" and sort anything without one >>> of those fields in the straightforward alphabetic way. But it turns out >>> that the tiddler in list-after or list-before has to actually exist, I >>> guess? At least, it only works if, say, I tell it to list after "Bag of >>> Bones", which does exist. But what if I make a tiddler called Beatrix, >>> which ought to be in between? Now I have to remember to go back into The >>> Bell Jar and update the sorting again, which could get very tedious and is >>> prone to error. >>> >>> Please tell me there's a good way to handle sorting with a/an/the, even >>> a different method, short of going the old route of tacking the offending >>> article back on to the end! >>> >>> Right now, the only other thing I can think of is creating a new field >>> on every single tiddler I'd want to sort as an alternate title field to use >>> when sorting, and I'd rather avoid that. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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