After splitting into your 4000 pieces, how was performance for additional, normal splits?
If there's a serious split problem, then the question is, do we: 1. Advise people to stick with shorter documents 2. Use some other mechanism for ordering the tiddlers A simple ordering system would be to have a field, "sortby". Then on the first split you would have 001. 002. 003. and then an additional split at 002. might look like 001. 002.001 002.002 003. and after 002.001. : 001. 002.001 002.001.001 002.001.002 002.002 003. Obviously this field could get quite long. The main reason I didn't pursue this path was because I was thinking about outlining. For outlining, it needs to be easy to traverse up and down (actually more "up") a chain of tiddlers. The list filter operators built into TW allow you to do that. I'm assuming that the greater utility of an outliner/editor makes any performance hit worthwhile, but I guess it will be easier to judge that when I post the outlner tw. I can post it now, but important pieces are unfinished. In particular, when you split, the new tiddlers aren't assigned a level and fold status, and so disappear. The interface isn't using standard icons. But if you want to have a peak: https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-outliner.html Click on the "hamburg" to change levels. Click on the fold/unfold symbols to change fold status. There's a tool tiddler for converting existing documents into outline documents (just adds level and fold fields). On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 2:28:44 AM UTC-7, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > TonyM, right, its a design thought. Yeah on a long novel you'd split to > chapters first then Noto each separately if you were sensible. > > TBH, I did not want to distract Mark S. from his thread so feel slightly > bad posting that. > > But I think the performance of list field may be relevant to larger "Noto > Docs". > > Best, TT > > On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:12:31 UTC+2, TonyM wrote: >> >> TT, >> >> Understood. >> >> I understand the desire for one tool. Perhaps mark could give us a button >> to split a tiddler using the same mechanism rather than pasting through the >> front end. >> >> However if importing a lot of content, it may be better to divide the >> incoming material somehow, even if it is mashed together later for reading. >> >> An example may be chapters. >> >> Sometimes this fragmentation say into chapters actually maintains >> information about the source that would otherwise be lost. >> >> Regards >> Tony >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 7:02:50 PM UTC+10, TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>> >>> Actually TonyM the lapse on initial split is not an issue. It didn't >>> fail. And I'd rather use one tool than two. >>> >>> The problem, is the list field performance when its heavily populated?? >>> After cut, refresh, its still same issue I think. >>> >>> Best, TT >>> >>> On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:56:10 UTC+2, TonyM wrote: >>>> >>>> Did you paste into the utility? >>>> >>>> Perhaps first loading then processing would be better. Ie you are >>>> forcing a batch like operation into and interactive one. I expect there is >>>> another way. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:38:42 PM UTC+10, TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ciao Mark >>>>> >>>>> *Performance Tests* >>>>> >>>>> Test 1 -- Noto instance that can edit 500 short plain text tiddlers >>>>> (tweet length). Perfectly workable. >>>>> >>>>> Test 2 -- Noto instance to slice plain text novel into about 4000 >>>>> paragraphs. It did manage the slice, though I put the kettle on waiting. >>>>> Its not really useable for live edit. But IT IS serviceable for initial >>>>> "document" creation. This is not an NW issue per se but I think a more >>>>> general issue with *performance at scale of the list field?* As as >>>>> separate issue I might look at lessons of the e-pub version of TW as it >>>>> uses dynamic loading well. >>>>> >>>>> Side notes >>>>> TT >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 31 May 2020 19:28:33 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In NW, every tiddler split into other tiddlers gets added to the >>>>>> list field of the main tag. Likewise, every tiddler deleted (via the >>>>>> interface) is removed from the list field of the main tag. >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/149af086-3eae-4425-ad8d-27024354ce8a%40googlegroups.com.
