G'day Tones, Dang, that was well put.
I usually find it really challenging to put into words the thoughts swirling around in this sponge o' mine. Whenever I find something written (by some really skillful folk), I can't help but get excited with a happy "That's it! That's what I was thinking!" internal jig going on. For the last few years, all of these swirling thoughts have been more focused, more coherent after seeing these bits from the Intertwingularity <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertwingularity> Wikipedia article: - *Ted Nelson wrote: "EVERYTHING IS DEEPLY INTERTWINGLED. In an important sense there are no "subjects" at all; there is only all knowledge, since the cross-connections among the myriad topics of this world simply cannot be divided up neatly."* - *He added the following comment: "Hierarchical and sequential structures, especially popular since Gutenberg, are usually forced and artificial. Intertwingularity is not generally acknowledged—people keep pretending they can make things hierarchical, categorizable and sequential when they can't."* >From there, I've got a ridiculously intertwingled mess of notions, in particular: - *everything is indeed intertwingled* - *Squirrel! Well, Puffins! A side-tracked blog entry if you like puffins <https://www.intertwingularityslicendice.ca/2020/08/side-tracked-again-puffins.html>.* - *there are always a myriad of cross-connected topics and sub-topics and super-topics, and, although not easy, there is a way of componentizing every little thing into fragmental and elemental information components (Tiddlers in TiddlyWiki, Pages in other Wikis) that can be combined into all/any aggregations (complex topic, sub-topic, and super-topic)* - tell me something is impossible, and I will hyperfocus on that to either prove that it is indeed impossible, or actually do the impossible thing; stubborn me ... - *Each topic/sub-topic/super-topic can certainly be presented in various alternative aggregations, each aggregation being a "living/dynamic" hierarchical/sequential/linear perspective of the topic/sub-topic/super-topic* - living/dynamic in the sense that everything is ever-evolving: every information component, every aggregation, interconnections.. - *Every topic/sub-topic/super-topic, and every aggregation can definitely be categorized in however many useful (i.e. of information value) ways* - *All of the information components (fragmental and elemental), all of the aggregations (every topic/sub-topic/super-topic), all of the categories, all of the connections between each one of those things ... together they are the intertwingularity within whatever unlimited or narrow scope that matters* Hmm. That sniffs of an Intertwingularity Mapping "vision." Not sure if well put. I'll have to re-read again later to decide *(I'm a "tweaker" but nature, always adjusting to get "it" juuuuust right. I find all things good enough until, they aren't.)* Definitely wordy. Feels good, though. On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: > Thanks for Sharing your thoughts, > > Cognitive overload is something we can all suffer from. Some aspects of > Tiddlywiki cause this and this is where I believe development would do well > to focus on. > > Your focus will no doubt contribute to this thinking. > > There are other complex fields such as engineering and even coding that > also offer insight such as modularisation, black-boxes and objects. We can > use what ever suits us to handle tiddlywiki. > > What some people think is that building such components limit's > creativity, they are I believe wrong, because if you can quickly define the > blocks you need it is easier to build larger things, things that better > represent what we observe. > > You can always build a new component, relationship or module as needed if > your creativity leads that way. Blocks can be anything you define as one, > Done well they reduce cognitive load. > > Regards > Tones > > > On Sunday, 30 August 2020 14:16:04 UTC+10, Charlie Veniot wrote: >> >> Information Componentization, Elemental Tiddlers, Aggregation Tiddlers, >> and Elemental Tiddler Links ??? >> >> Although I'm unsure of my vocabulary, I find it good enough for now >> (paralysis by analysis happens way too easily for me)... >> >> I'm a fan of Information Componentization (a core process to what I call >> "Intertwingularity Mapping".) "What Do We Mean by Componentization (for >> Knowledge)? >> <https://blog.okfn.org/2007/04/30/what-do-we-mean-by-componentization-for-knowledge/>" >> >> explains what I think oh-so-well. >> >> I firmly believe that Tiddlers really ought to be light (small, in the >> sense that editing one should not involve vertical scrolling to see >> everything), and I like to think of "information" tiddlers as being of >> these types (from these thoughts juggling around in this old sponge o' >> mine): >> >> - Fragment Tiddlers >> - not particularly, or at all, useful on its own; existing only >> for the purpose of transclusion so that something common among many >> tiddlers can be entered/updated once and transcluded wherever needed, >> guaranteeing consistent representation of "whatever it is" across the >> board >> - Elemental Tiddlers >> - a very small tiddler that is focused on a small topic and stands >> independently on its own, i.e. it is topically complete; it can still, >> though, transclude other tiddlers that enhance the topic >> - Aggregation Tiddlers >> - meant to cover very large/broad topics, organizing a lot of >> content that comes from the transclusion of many source tiddlers, >> including >> Fragment and Elemental and other Aggregate Tiddlers >> - sure, these tiddlers may also directly contain a little bit of >> content when it doesn't make much sense to have dedicated tiddlers >> just for >> that content >> >> As per screenshots below, I'm conceptually playing around with all these >> thoughts above, testing out ways to pile a lot of content in an Aggregation >> Tiddler while being mindful of designing to minimize "cognitive overload", >> making heavy use of of the DetailsWidget plugin and HTML tables. >> One of the things my related transclusion template does: include >> "transclusion souce tiddler links" (with this cute little guy, fattened up >> here just to make him easier to see: 🐟), to make it quick and easy to >> access a transcluded tiddler for editing. >> >> If you want to play around with (or simply look at) any of this, check >> out my Charlie's ADHD Slice'n Dice >> <https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_AdhdSliceAndDice.html> >> TiddlyWiki >> instance. >> >> Cheers ! >> >> [image: AggregationTiddler.png] >> >> >> [image: TranscludeTemplate.png] >> >> >> I also tweaked this "Aggregation Tiddler" to take advantage of the >> "tAsDetailsClosed" transclusion template (same as the one above, but >> details not open by default) >> >> >> [image: AggregationTiddler2.png] >> >> >> And I setup the related "New Journal" actions for this specific journal >> to use this tiddler as a template: >> >> >> [image: NewJournalTiddlerTemplate.png] >> >> >> >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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