Hi Tones, That is quite true and I see your efforts in this regard. I totally agree with you, having some *starter edition* with enough plugins, table of content, themes, palettes, ... The empty.html as described by Josiah (the virgin edition) should be available for experienced users and for creating other editions.
I myself distribute a customized edition to my graduate students which contains: empty.html + commander + shiraz + utility + favorites + trashbin + tinyTodo + relink + jighlight.js + katex + codemirror. They are happy with that. We use tag very carefully and try to have one line at the end of tiddler body as (keywords: list of related keywords) e use heavily from - sidebar table of content - tiddler menu bar info (for references, fields, ...) - tag pill to find other tiddlers in that category Best wishes Mohammad TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and solutions in Tiddlywiki TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations on tiddlers TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki trashbin tool TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and bookmarking tool TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, prioritize, and plan your work https://github.com/kookma On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 12:56:12 AM UTC+3:30 TW Tones wrote: > Mohammad et al, > > I am all for a minimum tiddlywiki being freely available and empty.html > has provided this, perhaps some of you suggestions can be moved into it. > However as I have stated a number of times empty.html is for people who > know what they are doing, building from a base. It is not a good starting > place for new users but it is the first download available to new users. > > Especially in functionality was reduced for space in empty.html but > already I think we should have a "standard edition", with a little more > functionality for users to help them be productive sooner. > > It should be quite easy to document, even have a plugin that "reduces" an > empty or standard wiki to a minimalist one so perhaps that is what we > should use not another edition? > > Regards > Tones > > > On Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:00:21 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote: >> >> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the >> recent releases. >> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One question >> is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the below table >> >> Release Size (kb) >> 5.1.12 1820 >> 5.1.15 2025 >> 5.1.17 2033 >> 5.1.19 2153 >> 5.1.21 2235 >> 5.1.22 2197 >> 5.1.12 2282 >> >> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki can be? >> Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different >> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, >> before going to have bigger empty.html >> >> >> Suggestions >> *A. Use official plugins* >> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip >> everything extra) >> 2. Put extra features in official plugins >> >> *B. Start a new generation * >> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part) >> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx >> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes >> >> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest >> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward >> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx >> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile approach, >> like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi input >> filters) >> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout >> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved >> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub) >> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding) >> 6. ... >> >> I am sure people can suggest more here >> >> >> Best wishes >> Mohammad >> >> TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and >> solutions in Tiddlywiki >> TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations on >> tiddlers >> TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki >> trashbin tool >> TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and >> bookmarking tool >> TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, >> prioritize, and plan your work >> >> https://github.com/kookma >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cb5a4e91-4e54-4a22-9663-750776cf086dn%40googlegroups.com.
