With a little customization it gets 3 to 4 MB in size and it is a bit heavy for single html!
On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 6:37:30 PM UTC+3:30 odin...@gmail.com wrote: > Pardon my ignorance. But what are the benefits of a smaller empty TW5? It > seemed to be implied in this thread that this is the case. > > Op woensdag 4 november 2020 om 16:00:09 UTC+1 schreef Mohammad: > >> Hi David, >> I assume other language shall be installed on demand! >> I have downloaded the latest empty.html from >> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ >> >> *These are some facts* >> >> $:/core >> has 2047 tiddlers and occupies around *1781 kb* >> >> Listing all tiddlers with language word in their title using advanced >> search [all[shadows]prefix[$:/]search:title[language]] results in >> 965 tiddlers and they are *115 kb* (I am not sure how part of these >> tiddlers can be distributed separately as language pack) >> >> There is two themes distributed with empty.html >> 1. Vanilla: *73.5 kb* >> 2. Snowwhite: *3 kb* >> >> There are 16 palettes in $:/core which occupies *66 kb* >> >> Best wishes >> Mohammad >> >> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 5:00:17 PM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote: >> >>> One thing that takes up space is the set of language tiddlers for >>> translating to other languages. English-speakers don't need those, usually. >>> What if those could be a plugin? Or else an English-only version stripped >>> of those tiddlers? Feels arrogant and colonial even mentioning it. I only >>> mention it as one area where TiddlyWiki could be at least a little lighter. >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 1:00:21 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote: >>> >>>> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the >>>> recent releases. >>>> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One >>>> question is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the >>>> below table >>>> >>>> Release Size (kb) >>>> 5.1.12 1820 >>>> 5.1.15 2025 >>>> 5.1.17 2033 >>>> 5.1.19 2153 >>>> 5.1.21 2235 >>>> 5.1.22 2197 >>>> 5.1.12 2282 >>>> >>>> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki can >>>> be? Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different >>>> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, >>>> before going to have bigger empty.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Suggestions >>>> *A. Use official plugins* >>>> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip >>>> everything extra) >>>> 2. Put extra features in official plugins >>>> >>>> *B. Start a new generation * >>>> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part) >>>> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx >>>> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes >>>> >>>> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest >>>> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward >>>> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx >>>> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile >>>> approach, like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi >>>> input filters) >>>> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout >>>> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved >>>> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub) >>>> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding) >>>> 6. ... >>>> >>>> I am sure people can suggest more here >>>> >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> Mohammad >>>> >>>> TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and >>>> solutions in Tiddlywiki >>>> TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations >>>> on tiddlers >>>> TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki >>>> trashbin tool >>>> TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and >>>> bookmarking tool >>>> TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, >>>> prioritize, and plan your work >>>> >>>> https://github.com/kookma >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b45d5958-3ea5-4db9-b129-3a89e33281cbn%40googlegroups.com.
