Hi David, I assume other language shall be installed on demand! I have downloaded the latest empty.html from https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
*These are some facts* $:/core has 2047 tiddlers and occupies around *1781 kb* Listing all tiddlers with language word in their title using advanced search [all[shadows]prefix[$:/]search:title[language]] results in 965 tiddlers and they are *115 kb* (I am not sure how part of these tiddlers can be distributed separately as language pack) There is two themes distributed with empty.html 1. Vanilla: *73.5 kb* 2. Snowwhite: *3 kb* There are 16 palettes in $:/core which occupies *66 kb* Best wishes Mohammad On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 5:00:17 PM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote: > One thing that takes up space is the set of language tiddlers for > translating to other languages. English-speakers don't need those, usually. > What if those could be a plugin? Or else an English-only version stripped > of those tiddlers? Feels arrogant and colonial even mentioning it. I only > mention it as one area where TiddlyWiki could be at least a little lighter. > > On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 1:00:21 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote: > >> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the >> recent releases. >> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One question >> is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the below table >> >> Release Size (kb) >> 5.1.12 1820 >> 5.1.15 2025 >> 5.1.17 2033 >> 5.1.19 2153 >> 5.1.21 2235 >> 5.1.22 2197 >> 5.1.12 2282 >> >> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki can be? >> Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different >> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, >> before going to have bigger empty.html >> >> >> Suggestions >> *A. Use official plugins* >> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip >> everything extra) >> 2. Put extra features in official plugins >> >> *B. Start a new generation * >> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part) >> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx >> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes >> >> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest >> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward >> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx >> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile approach, >> like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi input >> filters) >> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout >> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved >> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub) >> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding) >> 6. ... >> >> I am sure people can suggest more here >> >> >> Best wishes >> Mohammad >> >> TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and >> solutions in Tiddlywiki >> TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations on >> tiddlers >> TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki >> trashbin tool >> TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and >> bookmarking tool >> TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, >> prioritize, and plan your work >> >> https://github.com/kookma >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/90561b60-ab32-400b-a59e-a0d13fca2ecdn%40googlegroups.com.
