Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this *might *work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search across multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a method how to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way.
Thanks for your input. Victor On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote: > Victor, > > Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki) can contain the > search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of > each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on > your on your *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the > bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a > search of the *zettelkasten wiki* > On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more references > to the same bibliographic link. > > We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to > develop the appropriate practice. > > Regards > Tones > > > On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote: >> >> Victor, >> >> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With >> Bibliography. >> >> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other >> tiddlers. >> >> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic >> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry >> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link >> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a >> back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic >> entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The >> backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to >> the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. >> >> A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of >> "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie wikitext, >> widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most >> intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - >> yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many >> problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building >> tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" >> or self referential. >> >> I hope this explains what I have said a little better. >> >> Regards >> Tones >> >> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. >>> >>> > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, >>> you can have the search also look for the use of that term in >>> *zettelkasten* >>> >>> But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and >>> *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, >>> right? >>> >>> > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could package >>> and install it on any wiki. >>> >>> What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I >>> keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. >>> >>> To give you a more precise example: >>> >>> - I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book >>> >>> <https://brainfck.org/bib.html#Getting%20Things%20Done%20-%20The%20Art%20of%20Stress-Free%20Productivity> >>> - There I have a link to GTD <https://brainfck.org/index.html#GTD> >>> which is part of the *zettelkasten* >>> - In the GTD tiddler <https://brainfck.org/index.html#GTD> itself >>> I have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks @bimlas >>> for that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in >>> *bibliography* >>> - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting >>> Things Done - Note 3 >>> >>> <https://brainfck.org/bib.html#Getting%20Things%20Done%20-%20Note%203>) >>> in the *zettelkasten* wiki >>> - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things Done >>> - Note 3 >>> >>> <https://brainfck.org/bib.html#Getting%20Things%20Done%20-%20Note%203> >>> which tiddlers in *zettelkasten *(and not only) are pointing >>> to it >>> >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:02:59 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote: >>> >>>> Victor, >>>> >>>> At the same time as you search for a Glossary item, in your >>>> *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, you can have the search also look for the >>>> use of that term in *zettelkasten .* that is effectively what the >>>> backlinks would be. If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big >>>> you could package and install it on any wiki. Drag and drop update. If you >>>> could go further you copuld let you add glossary items in any wiki but >>>> have >>>> a tool to export additions and include them in the central wiki. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Tones >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:40:48 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>> >>>>> somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First of >>>>> all thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and I >>>>> think that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely the >>>>> perfect tool. >>>>> >>>>> As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more >>>>> comprehensive explanation: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - the reason why I've splitted "concerns"/domains/contexts in >>>>> multiple wikis is because of the size: I don't want to have a big >>>>> bloated >>>>> wiki, instead I want to have multiple ones >>>>> - one for the zettelkasten >>>>> - one for the bibliography >>>>> - individual ones for several domains like IT security, >>>>> nutrition, sports etc. >>>>> - one for collection of bookmarks >>>>> - etc. >>>>> - now when I create links e.g. from the *zettelkasten* to the >>>>> *bibliography* wiki, I also need to specify the location of the >>>>> wiki as well (like I've described at the beginning of this thread) >>>>> - imagine after some years you'll have hundreds of links from >>>>> one wiki to another >>>>> - let's say the location of one wiki changes (bib.html changes >>>>> to bibliography.html) >>>>> - then I'll have to update the links to reflect the new wiki >>>>> location (bibliography.html) >>>>> - and that's what I mean by "elegant" >>>>> - regardless of the method I use to interlink between >>>>> multiple wikis there should be a way to update multiple links >>>>> easily >>>>> - and this solution should also work in 15 years :D >>>>> - one thing that is not solved yet (at least I haven't found a >>>>> solution): >>>>> - let's stick to the *zettelkasten* -> *bibliography* example >>>>> (you have several tiddlers in *zettelkasten* containing links >>>>> to tiddlers in *bibliography*) >>>>> - inserting links in the *zettelkasten* to some tiddlers in the >>>>> *bibliography* wiki is easy (I still use the macro mentioned >>>>> before) >>>>> - but how do I show *backlinks* in the *bibliography* wiki? >>>>> - more specific: how can I show which tiddlers in the >>>>> *zettelkasten* wiki point to _this_ specific tiddler in the >>>>> *bibliography* wiki? >>>>> >>>>> I hope my post is not that confusing. I'm looking forward to your >>>>> comments and suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Victor >>>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:05:57 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Victor, >>>>>> >>>>>> I will backup David's suggestion of Mohammad's searchWikis because >>>>>> you can link to specific tiddler in another wiki but they key is what >>>>>> you >>>>>> want to achieve. >>>>>> >>>>>> The first rule is you can do anything with links you can on any >>>>>> website, use permalinks and permaviews, drag and drop between wikis, >>>>>> iframe >>>>>> one in another and create link that open in the the same target >>>>>> windows/tab. Bob or bobexe is critical if you may open the same wiki for >>>>>> edit in different tabs, windows or browsers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Copy to clipboard is a way to take a search string from one wiki to >>>>>> another and a lot more can be done. >>>>>> >>>>>> I recently responded to someone else's questions on the same subject >>>>>> and someone else was talking about capturing bookmarks with tiddlywiki >>>>>> which can include tiddlywiki itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Tones >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 20:29:22 UTC+10, Victor Dorneanu wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but >>>>>>> I'd like to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links >>>>>>> between tiddlers in different wikis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution >>>>>>> <https://tobibeer.github.io/TiddlyWiki5/> which uses several macros >>>>>>> to have something like: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <<. docs Documentation>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If >>>>>>> you look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the >>>>>>> location of the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten >>>>>>> <http://brainfck.org/> where I have: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base >>>>>>> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources >>>>>>> (web articles etc.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> KR, >>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8a959e3c-8116-49f8-99da-b6119f25494en%40googlegroups.com.
