Perhaps action-navigate works differently than action-setfield, or perhaps
everything works differently with a drop action.
On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 6:24:11 PM UTC-8 TW Tones wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I may be missing something here, or perhaps 5.1.23 has reverted (untested
> by me yet), but I cant help but feel these posts are miss-representing
> things somehow.
>
> The drop actions do add complexity to this but inside a single button I
> have used createtiddler then referenced the save title as a variable and
> used it elsewhere.
> However if one determines a base title that does not exist yet, then the
> save title will always be the same and you don't even need to access it.
> Just use the first title to used for base title. If multiple tiddlers are
> written they should receive a number increment tiddlername 1, tiddlername 2
> etc... in which case they all have the prefix tiddlername. Knowing this if
> you want you can rename them.
>
> In the pre-release
> <$button>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="Excerpt" $savetitle="$:/savedtitle"
> tags="Excerpt" text=<<actionText>> />
> <$action-navigate $to={{$:/savedtitle}}/>
> Go
> </$button>
>
> This works, and it can only do so if the $:/savedtitle is correct when the
> action-navigate is done.
> So how can the OT of marks say? *The title saved in $:/savetitle doesn't
> become available until AFTER the routine it is in finishes. This means it
> is too late to be used by other widgets inside of the same routine/macro.*
> If becomes available immediately after the createTiddler action how can
> this be true?
>
> Tones
>
>
> On Friday, 18 December 2020 at 17:02:34 UTC+11 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> The problem is highlighted by something like this:
>>
>> \define dropaction()
>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<<actionTiddler>> />
>> <$list
>> filter="[all[tiddlers]search:title<actionTiddler>sort[created]last[]]"
>> variable="lastcreated">
>> <$fieldmangler tiddler=<<lastcreated>>>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<<currentTiddler>>/>
>> </$fieldmangler>
>> </$list>
>> \end
>>
>> <$droppable actions=<<dropaction>>>Some area to drop on
>> </$droppable>
>>
>> ... this brute-force approach doesn't work and will tag the second from
>> last one since the action-createtiddler doesn't create a tiddler until the
>> entire action is done.
>>
>> None of these work now but maybe one of these solutions could be adopted
>> in the core:
>> 1) the DroppableWidget could be made to act more like the ButtonWidget in
>> that actions within the widget are triggered so <$droppable
>> actions=<<second_actions>> > <<first_actions>> </$droppable> would work.
>> Right now only <<second_actions>> trigger.
>>
>> 2) DroppableWidgets (and ButtonWidgets) could be make nestable with inner
>> widgets completing before outer ones so that you can have constructs like:
>>
>> <$droppable actions=<<nth_drop_action>>>
>> ...
>> <$droppable actions=<<second_drop_action>>>
>> <$droppable actions=<<first_drop_action>>>Some area to drop on
>> </$droppable>
>> </$droppable>
>> ...
>> </$droppable>
>>
>> 3) ActionCreateTiddlerWidget could have a variable scope that acts like
>> <$fieldmangler> to do things like:
>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="Created Tiddler">
>>
>> <<actions_that_use_currentTiddler_or_defined_variable_that_is_same_as_that_stored_in_$savetitle>>
>> </$action-createtiddler>
>>
>> ... however having the name won't help if the tiddler isn't created until
>> the end.
>>
>> Some potential RFEs ... none of which I have the skill to implement.
>>
>> /Mike
>>
>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:18:14 AM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 7:33:30 PM UTC-8 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise; *accept or generate the new tiddler name before
>>>> $action-createtiddler *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> This somewhat obviates the utility of the $savetitle attribute, since
>>> the results are not available until the containing process is completed.
>>>
>>> So, for instance, you couldn't catch use $savetitle to create a
>>> reference in another tiddler to the newly created tiddler until the process
>>> is done. Meaning, at best, that the user has to push a button for a second
>>> time for no apparent reason. (not apparent to the user, in any case).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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