Try this: <$button> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/savedtitle" text="" /> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="Secret" $savetitle="$:/savedtitle" tags="Excerpt" text="do you see me now 2?" />
<$action-setfield $tiddler="testtiddler" text={{$:/savedtitle}} /> *<$fieldmangler tiddler={{$:/savedtitle}}><$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param={{$:/savedtitle}}/></$fieldmangler>* <$action-navigate $to={{$:/savedtitle}}/> Go </$button> testtiddler: {{testtiddler}} saved title {{$:/savedtitle}} $:/savedtitle [[testtiddler]] I think the problem occurs when you have to use fieldmangler to send messages. Fieldmangler seems to fire first before anything else. You'd expect the tiddler created by action-createtiddler to be tagged with itself. It doesn't unless you run that same fieldmangler with actions= separately. With droppable you don't have that option. It will only run actions= macros. /Mike On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 12:28:47 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote: > Well here is my test on the pre-release. > > <$button> > <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/savedtitle" text="" /> > <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="Secret" $savetitle="$:/savedtitle" > tags="Excerpt" text="do you see me now 2?" /> > <$action-setfield $tiddler="testtiddler" text={{$:/savedtitle}} /> > <$action-navigate $to={{$:/savedtitle}}/> > Go > </$button> > > testtiddler: {{testtiddler}} saved title {{$:/savedtitle}} $:/savedtitle > [[testtiddler]] > > It seems to me to be doing what is expected of it. > > - Each time I click it generates the tiddler and updates testtiddler > with the current new title. > - So yes the $:/savedtitle is available to the second setfield. > - I clear the $:/savedtitle first as a demo but it is not necessary. > > Tones > On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 15:10:08 UTC+11 Mark S. wrote: > >> Ok, the navigation actually occurs AFTER the entire routine has finished. >> Inside the routine, the value of the saved tiddler is unavailable. >> >> To see this, try this variation: >> >> <$button> >> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="Secret" $savetitle="$:/savedtitle" >> tags="Excerpt" text="do you see me now 2?" /> >> <$action-setfield $tiddler="testtiddler" text={{$:/savedtitle}} /> >> <$action-navigate $to={{$:/savedtitle}}/> >> Go >> </$button> >> >> testtiddler: {{testtiddler}} >> >> When you press go, the contents of testtiddler will be the *prior* (if >> there were any) contents of $:/savedtitle, not the one's generated during >> the routine. >> >> >> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 6:24:11 PM UTC-8 TW Tones wrote: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> I may be missing something here, or perhaps 5.1.23 has reverted >>> (untested by me yet), but I cant help but feel these posts are >>> miss-representing things somehow. >>> >>> The drop actions do add complexity to this but inside a single button I >>> have used createtiddler then referenced the save title as a variable and >>> used it elsewhere. >>> However if one determines a base title that does not exist yet, then the >>> save title will always be the same and you don't even need to access it. >>> Just use the first title to used for base title. If multiple tiddlers are >>> written they should receive a number increment tiddlername 1, tiddlername 2 >>> etc... in which case they all have the prefix tiddlername. Knowing this if >>> you want you can rename them. >>> >>> In the pre-release >>> <$button> >>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="Excerpt" $savetitle="$:/savedtitle" >>> tags="Excerpt" text=<<actionText>> /> >>> <$action-navigate $to={{$:/savedtitle}}/> >>> Go >>> </$button> >>> >>> This works, and it can only do so if the $:/savedtitle is correct when >>> the action-navigate is done. >>> So how can the OT of marks say? *The title saved in $:/savetitle >>> doesn't become available until AFTER the routine it is in finishes. This >>> means it is too late to be used by other widgets inside of the same >>> routine/macro.* >>> If becomes available immediately after the createTiddler action how can >>> this be true? >>> >>> Tones >>> >>> >>> On Friday, 18 December 2020 at 17:02:34 UTC+11 mwik...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> The problem is highlighted by something like this: >>>> >>>> \define dropaction() >>>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<<actionTiddler>> /> >>>> <$list >>>> filter="[all[tiddlers]search:title<actionTiddler>sort[created]last[]]" >>>> variable="lastcreated"> >>>> <$fieldmangler tiddler=<<lastcreated>>> >>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<<currentTiddler>>/> >>>> </$fieldmangler> >>>> </$list> >>>> \end >>>> >>>> <$droppable actions=<<dropaction>>>Some area to drop on >>>> </$droppable> >>>> >>>> ... this brute-force approach doesn't work and will tag the second from >>>> last one since the action-createtiddler doesn't create a tiddler until the >>>> entire action is done. >>>> >>>> None of these work now but maybe one of these solutions could be >>>> adopted in the core: >>>> 1) the DroppableWidget could be made to act more like the ButtonWidget >>>> in that actions within the widget are triggered so <$droppable >>>> actions=<<second_actions>> > <<first_actions>> </$droppable> would work. >>>> Right now only <<second_actions>> trigger. >>>> >>>> 2) DroppableWidgets (and ButtonWidgets) could be make nestable with >>>> inner widgets completing before outer ones so that you can have constructs >>>> like: >>>> >>>> <$droppable actions=<<nth_drop_action>>> >>>> ... >>>> <$droppable actions=<<second_drop_action>>> >>>> <$droppable actions=<<first_drop_action>>>Some area to drop on >>>> </$droppable> >>>> </$droppable> >>>> ... >>>> </$droppable> >>>> >>>> 3) ActionCreateTiddlerWidget could have a variable scope that acts >>>> like <$fieldmangler> to do things like: >>>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="Created Tiddler"> >>>> >>>> <<actions_that_use_currentTiddler_or_defined_variable_that_is_same_as_that_stored_in_$savetitle>> >>>> </$action-createtiddler> >>>> >>>> ... however having the name won't help if the tiddler isn't created >>>> until the end. >>>> >>>> Some potential RFEs ... none of which I have the skill to implement. >>>> >>>> /Mike >>>> >>>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:18:14 AM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 7:33:30 PM UTC-8 TW Tones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Otherwise; *accept or generate the new tiddler name before >>>>>> $action-createtiddler * >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This somewhat obviates the utility of the $savetitle attribute, since >>>>> the results are not available until the containing process is completed. >>>>> >>>>> So, for instance, you couldn't catch use $savetitle to create a >>>>> reference in another tiddler to the newly created tiddler until the >>>>> process >>>>> is done. Meaning, at best, that the user has to push a button for a >>>>> second >>>>> time for no apparent reason. (not apparent to the user, in any case). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bf446ece-bd94-4606-8d53-7f33eb935c17n%40googlegroups.com.