reading and mostly staying quiet, but... Hate Xememex (is that the right number of ms and xes). How do I pronounce it? Not terribly concerned with the architectural provenance and meaning, and I think the nitpicking here is less helpful. Rebrand, for aforementioned reasons, is reasonable, but there's overthinking.
I also think that folding all that thought into an acronym that does double duty would be better. Honor the thinkers, but do it in a way that is transparent and irrelevant unless someone wants to look there, because day to day, practically, the high theory isn't why people use TW. PicoWiki. PicoCard. Picard! That's what I came to say :) On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 8:21 AM David Gifford <dgiff...@crcna.org> wrote: > wow > > the things i miss when i go on a short trip. my input, which everyone will > just proceed to ignore: > > 1. I think forking is a good idea if there is going to be a big overhaul. > I am in favor of making things easier for those who design and develop this > wonder of technology, even though it means fatigue for me: more moving > stuff to a new system, more learning curve, more waiting for the new system > to get all or most of the goodies from the previous system. > > 2. I support 'card' or 'notecard' as a replacement for 'tiddler'. > Notecardnet.com, Notecardgen.com, Notecardsystem.com and Notecardweb.com > look like they might be available. Which I find utterly amazing. > > 3. If the goal is to do all the work of overhauling TW for nothing and > continue to limit TW to the same small group of programming aficionados and > a few odd stragglers like myself, then by all means, use xememex, but if > your goal is to try to open TW to a wider market, reconsidering the name is > important. > > a) I had the same thought as others, that xememex it sounds like Zantac or > some similar drug. If you have side effects after using Xememex, please > consult with your doctor. > b) Some of you may get all feely thinking about Memex and Vannevar Bush. I > think most people will just assume the word Memex has to do with some old > outdated technology like mimeographs or something you use with those old > punch cards that my Aunt Linda used to bring home from her computing job in > the early 70s. That will be offputting just as TiddlyWiki is. > c) I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade or be negative or resistant > to change. I am just trying to offer a perspective others might not have > thought of. Avoid anything that doesn't roll off the tongue or that has > negative associations (outdated is not something you want people to think > of when they hear the name of your product). > > FWIW. Blessings. > > > > On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 12:14:43 AM UTC-6 positiv...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> I couldn't find if this topic has already been re-hashed this decade. But >> I was wondering if there is any value in discussing alternative names to >> the "Tiddly" part of the TiddlyWIki project. This project has been around >> for so long that renaming / rebranding would be quite an effort. And the >> Tiddly part is unique within programming projects, which helps to eliminate >> false positives when searching for sample code. >> >> I am an American living on the Pacific Coast, so my linguistic >> preferences are definitely different from Jeremy's. But just saying the >> word 'Tiddly' out loud feels like trying to get people from certain Germany >> dialects to say the word "Squirrel." It always feels forced to me. >> >> A joke by Lt. Commander Data on Star Trek the Next Generation was about >> someone mispronouncing 'kidneys' as 'kiddleys.' We the store keeper >> corrected him, the customer contested, "No, I said 'kiddleys.' Diddle I?" >> >> From just a project standpoint, the word 'Tiddly' is trying to focus on >> the "small amount" of data or code that should be in any one unit. This way >> many units can be combined in various ways to satisfy different needs. >> Although it is intended to produce a Wiki-like user interface with deep >> linking and back references, the way you go about it is by breaking up >> large pieces of information into re-usable components. >> >> If your goal is to create "tiddlers," then using a TiddlyWiki application >> would be a natural fit. If the goal of most people is to make small units >> of re-usable components, then perhaps a different prefix would make it more >> appealing. Again, this is just a personal opinion and not a slight on the >> TiddlyWiki project as a whole, which I have been using frequently everyday. >> >> There have been two alternate words kicking around in my head lately. >> TipWiki or DotWiki. >> >> 'Tip' has a very similar double meaning to Tiddly - drunk people can be >> 'tiddly' or 'tipsy', and just the 'tip' of something or a 'tiddly' amount >> of something is quite small. There is an additional English meaning of >> 'tip' to mean 'a small note or suggestion.' That seems to be actually the >> point of TiddlyWiki: Make lots of small notes that can be re-combined as >> pieces of many different larger pages. 'Tiddlers' would become 'Tips', and >> a single 'tiddler' would become a single 'tip.' Phonetically, it feels a >> lot easier to talk about. >> >> 'Dot' has an inherent meaning of 'smallest possible mark or amount.' This >> would again drive home the concept of making the smallest possible content >> for any one unit of information. Unfortunately, dots are already associated >> with the 'dot notation' of Object Oriented Programming, so that could make >> it a little confusing as to the overall goal for people with software >> development backgrounds. >> >> The goal of renaming the project would be to push the desire for >> "smallness" of the individual unit using a more standard English word. >> Please forgive me if I am pushing anyone's buttons here. 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