Hi Wolfgang Sorry for the short answers... > I seem to have been> mistaken thinking the new templating feature would be a > feature of the> TW core itself. Now it seems it's actually a TiddlySpace > plugin which> doesn't do much more than ForEach already could since a long > time in> stand-alones? As I understand it is a feature of the tw-core itself - You should be able to do sth like:<<list filter [tag[someTag] template:someTemplate>> > I must be doing something wrong, because when I search for 'plugin' I> get 16 entries, for the 'systemConfig' tag 8, and both together it> shows just 9 plugins?? (in each of my TWs I'll find more...) I only get 9 tiddlers tagged with systemConfig as well? - Don't know why... > You know what I do when I need to search for a plugin? I open an old> 13MB TW where I imported all plugins until two years ago, exactly> because 'TiddlyHub' seemed never to catch up. 1300 systemConfigs and> almost 300 scripts in total. Though it's outdated I still always find> something useful or a hind where to look for.> > At the time of it's creation FF wasn't that stable and often crashed> with this TW. Now that would be very improved.. If you ported your plugins (maybe as packages with two, three or more related plugins and scripts) to TiddlySpace you can collect all of them in your own library/space of plugins and scripts -1 To provide an overview for visitors2 Let other spaceusers benefit from your collection3 Have a FAST loading TW with direct access to ALL plugins and scripts you have collected .. > If I can already have all these features in a standalone, why would I> dare to go there without the ability to create minimal testcase wikis> to ask for help, or find a mistake myself as a non-developer? You can still create minimal testcases - Just create a new subspace and delete all systembags (or make them private) > All those dependencies make it that much less hack-able. I don't agree - I still think of a space as a normal TiddlyWiki. You get some extra options to interact with other spaces - and share your work in ways that wasn't possible before..As long as you don't change any of the TiddlySpace-system-plugins TiddlySpace is just sth. which happens from the backstage.IF you change some of the TSsystemPlugins/ tiddlers you might get in trouble when there is an upgrade taking place - otherwise you are left alone with your own TW.... > Ok, I might give it a trial. But first would want to know what the 3> > 'includes': system-plugins, 'system-info' and 'system-images' do. If you click on the backstage to the left - select "Tiddlers" -> "Spaces" and click each spacename you'll get a list of tiddlers included from those spaces... > Do I need all these 83 'excludeLists' tiddlers, or can I delete them and> > still have it fully functioning as with a regular stand-alone TW? Yes You can, however I usually just include "classictheme" found at http://themes.tiddlyspace.com (include it by writing "classictheme" in the "includes"tab in the backstage to the left).Then I have a "normal" looking TW, which behaves like one I would download from tiddlywiki.com... Downloading and uploading. It's very easy to upload an original "one-file"TW from Your hdd to TiddlySpace. Simply select import from the backstage and choose whether the uploaded tiddlers should be Private or Public. (If you change your mind you can always batchconvert them from the backstage "Batch")... Since uploading a TW to TiddlySpot has stopped working - this IS the way to get your local TW to the net. (If you don't use your own server and a ftp-client of course...) I download a Space in three different ways:1) Go to the backstage to the left - click the export tab and click download.(I don't really need this because it downloads ALL plugins also the TiddlySpace specific plugins and tiddlers - and I don't believe the synchronize back to the server thing seems to work very well - please correct me if I'm wrong...)2) Same as 1) however I import all tiddlers except those which are serverspecific into a "normal" empty TW.(I change View- and EditTemplates accordingly - so they don't use/try to show user icons etc... - If I used "classictheme" - that's not a problem... )3) I import the tiddlers I want from a Space (TiddlySpace is Cors enabled) directly into a local TiddlyWiki... Cheers Måns Mårtensson
On 9 Nov., 10:55, wolfgang <[email protected]> wrote: > > You'll find some documentation about templating in the TiddlySpaceDocs > > if you search for > > "tscan":http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BtsScan%20macro%5D%5D > > Thanks. Not much time right now. But right away: I seem to have been > mistaken thinking the new templating feature would be a feature of the > TW core itself. Now it seems it's actually a TiddlySpace plugin which > doesn't do much more than ForEach already could since a long time in > stand-alones? > > > If you click on the icon in the middle of the backstage you'll get > > searchoptions which will let you search across the TiddlySpaceVerse > > for anything you want... > > I must be doing something wrong, because when I search for 'plugin' I > get 16 entries, for the 'systemConfig' tag 8, and both together it > shows just 9 plugins?? (in each of my TWs I'll find more...) > > > You can create a Space which will fetch all kinds of material > > published on TiddlySpace - and you are free to do so. > > If you have a great idea for collecting documentation about plugins > > (i.e. get the description slice and throw it into the template ) > > please sign up to TiddlySpace and I'll add you as a member of the > > extentions space... > > You know what I do when I need to search for a plugin? I open an old > 13MB TW where I imported all plugins until two years ago, exactly > because 'TiddlyHub' seemed never to catch up. 1300 systemConfigs and > almost 300 scripts in total. Though it's outdated I still always find > something useful or a hind where to look for. > > At the time of it's creation FF wasn't that stable and often crashed > with this TW. Now that would be very improved.. > > > TiddlySpace isn't a new TiddlyWiki - it's a framework which lets us > > use and exploit new ways of using tiddlywiki online - it has some > > great features, like creating HTML representations of tiddlers and > > binary files (yes you can upload images etc ...) > > If I can already have all these features in a standalone, why would I > dare to go there without the ability to create minimal testcase wikis > to ask for help, or find a mistake myself as a non-developer? All > those dependencies make it that much less hack-able. > > > It would be really nice if some of "the old hackers" started using it > > - so things could get more available from one place - TiddlySpace... > > Ok, I might give it a trial. But first would want to know what the 3 > 'includes': system-plugins, 'system-info' and 'system-images' do. Do I > need all these 83 'excludeLists' tiddlers, or can I delete them and > still have it fully functioning as with a regular stand-alone TW? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
