On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, tejjyid wrote:
I created a tiddler called "tsjuly" as per some posting related to this...should I repost here?
The idea was to tag the tiddler tsjuly, so if you add that tag, it will show up on the radar.
I have never had a clear idea of how Tiddlyspace is supposed to work, nor its relation to Tiddlywiki. Pretty much every time I try to use some plugin - painfully tracked down - it turns out to be TW specific. The comment made further down here - that TW should be about TW and TS about tiddlers I find particularly bewildering: I thought TW was about tiddlers? And I thought TS was about collaboration?
What do you mean by "TW specific"?
And how does one use TW, if not through tiddlers? And what/where are the TS interfaces that expose tiddlers without exposing TW?
The idea there is that TiddlyWeb makes it possible to work with tiddlers outside of tiddlywiki. For example your tsjuly tiddler (assuming this is yours) can be reached on the web like this: http://andrewsimon.tiddlyspace.com/tsjuly
From which I can make a bookmark, that quotes it:
http://cdent-bkm.tiddlyspace.com/tsjuly
(And in fact, how does that gel with this, from the docs space? A space may be thought of as a TiddlyWiki hosted on TiddlyWeb.)
As you've noted the docs are a bit inconsistent, but it is true that a space may be thought of as a tiddlywiki hosted on tiddlyweb. It may also be thought of a collection of tiddlers that are present on the web. My main space doesn't use tiddlywiki at all, it just operates as a more standard wiki: http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/ You might ask, why bother? What do I gain from not using TiddlyWiki. For me what I get is more direct access to the tiddlers without TiddylyWiki being in the way. Each of those tiddlers can be access and edited directly over the HTTP API that tiddlyweb present. The canonical URI of that HelloThere tiddlers is: http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/bags/cdent_public/tiddlers/HelloThere it can be accessed in other representations. Here are some (but not all): http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/bags/cdent_public/tiddlers/HelloThere.txt http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/bags/cdent_public/tiddlers/HelloThere.json http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/bags/cdent_public/tiddlers/HelloThere.atom Using the web API it can be changed and manipulated by a large number of tools, including, but not limited to TiddlyWiki.
Plus you say "We haven't been very good about exposing functionality": Endorsed!
You might wish to read this posting in the [tiddlyspace] group where I explain some of the reasons for this: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlyspace/g3SOnPGX8_U/_7KhIpyrv_QJ
I'm actually quite keen to get involved in documenting stuff - but I have no idea where or how to start.
I recommend you get in contact with pmario and mat mentioned in that thread referenced just above. They appear to have some plans and hopes for improving and consolidating the TiddlyWiki aspects of TiddlySpace. -- Chris Dent http://burningchrome.com/ [...] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
