Thanx for reply.

Your feedback is very useful as I start thinking about end user issues.


Ok, here are a few thoughts starting out with...

Using Win7, FF19

Current status:

* I downloaded empty and launched. Is it supposed to show a gray page with 
only buttons [New] and [Save] and a This wiki is not encrypted [Set 
password]? And they appear arbitrarily scattered. No DefaultTiddler.
* Clicking the password button and setting it, FF asks me "Would you like 
to remember the password on file://?" - maybe it's a FF issue but that 
location looks funny (ie "file://"). Or maybe it's just me. Either way, it 
looks as if some default path was not set.
* After setting the password, the page is still mostly gray. BTW, I really 
like having the option for a password as default!
* Ok clicking [New], I get a glimpse of the layout but probably not 
intentionally; I understand that there is a left "frame" because the title 
"New Tiddler at Tue Mar 12 2013 18:01:55 GMT+0100" is so long that I get a 
horizontal scroll at left bottom. Maybe the date is not necessary in the 
left column? Not to mention the GMT stuff.
* Clicking to set the tiddler title, I'd like it if the default text ("New 
tiddler") would disappear instead of me having to delete it manually.
* Same with text.
* I really like it that the tags field is above the text. I typically mod 
my TWs to get this.
* Tags on site five.tiddlywiki.com are varis colors. Only gray in my test 
file. Maybe it's explained somewhere but the reason for the colors is not 
clear.
* Buttons [Delete] and [Done] should probably be right aligned? And 
beatiful icons like in view mode.
* I notice the "This wiki is encrypted"+buttons remain below the tiddler. 
Maybe these should be placed more discretely in lower left or lower right 
corner of page?
* Clicking [Done] gives an animatino that is a bit funny. It rapidly 
appears to shift down+right about an inch and back up again. No biggie but 
a bit odd. Same when clicking Edit icon.
* Creating a few more tids and then clicking one of the prominent tags 
gives a menu/list. I think it is a bit of an overkill to repeat the tag in 
the top of that list as the very tagis visible just above the list. No 
biggie tho.
* (Also a bit overkill to list the name of the very tiddler you're in. Why 
would you want to click that, from there?) 
* BTW, overall nice and clean appearence of site. Neutral gray background 
and clean white tids with slight shade for 3d. Nice Edit and Close icons.
* Re-editing a tid, I miss a Cancel button.
* (...and, being a regular TW user, I can't help but wonder how all those 
other commands will be avalable, *link, references,* etc).
* The animation when closing a tiddler made me smile :-)
* Double click to edit seems disabled?
* I like the drag/extend text field when in edit mode. (Wonder if it will 
function like that tiddlytools thing wh
* I do NOT like that newline/enter in edit mode is disregarded in view mode!
* ...and I'm guessing thsi is why bullet lists must be preceded with an 
empty line?
* Maybe I just can't find it (there's no search) but how do I create a 
table in TW5?
* (Now my original question in this thread becomes obvious: There's no menu 
- how do I access my closed tiddlers? (Hm, and writing links 

MainMenu SideBarTabs PageTemplate didn't give anything either). I assume 
this is just temporary of course.)
* Clicking [Save] gives popup message "Download changes / Your browser only 
supports manual saving [snip]". At bottom of popup theres link "Right-click 
to save changes" - so I'm supposed to right-click-download it from my own 
local copy? Is it some setting in FF
* But, ok, right-click-save it is; In deed unrecognizable name (as 
described in popup). Renaming, save. This of course results in two files.
* ...opening new file gives message "TiddlyFox: Do you want to enable 
TiddlyWiki file saving capability for file:///C:/.../tw5test.htm" (hm, 
haven't seen extension "htm" for a long time). I think I saw some 
discussion on TiddlyFox to make it so you don't have to answer this every 
time. Maybe I misunderstood it but, regardless, I hope this will be the 
case of course. (BTW in these opening steps I'm also asked to enter the 
password. Seems to work as intended and appears very tight/good.)
* Opening the new one still gives no access to previously made tiddlers.
* Some minor stress testing works well (Doing Ctrl+ and Ctrl-, some 
internatinoal characters, very long titles, )
* ...but, bug, it seems I can create multiple tiddlers with the same name. 
However, opening one for edit also opens the other one and only whichever 
is saved last sets what is actually saved.
* Problem: tiddler column holds from top down tiddlers aaa, bbb and ccc. 
The last, ccc, is out of sight at bottom. All are tagged 'bbb'. Clicking on 
tag 'bbb' in aaa shows list, but clicking 'ccc' does not put focus on ccc.

Further Thoghts/Ideas/wishes:

* Much more transparent handling of fields. I (a non-coder) will elaborate 
if this is considered worthy of attention.
* I wish there are more options from start/default. In classic TW there's 
options SaveBackups, EnableAnimations etc but there should really be many 
more. For instance:
* CamelCase option. Actually, CamelCase is a technical vagary, convenient 
at times but distracting at others. Perhaps even better suited as a plugin. 
Or, if we want a general linking tool, then I think something like the 
autoweaving concept really makes more sense.
* Default behavior to prompt a question if user wants to update tags if the 
'tagtiddler' is renamed. Otherwise you kill tags and you typically don't 
even know it.
* ...and, actually, same thing for links in texts (ie. as seen in 
"references" in the toolbar menu). 
* Optional "beginners mode". Turned on, there are links next to "critical 
parts" leading to help chapters in tw.org or other place. While one may 
argue that this is more suitable as a 'theme', a beginner is probably most 
likely to download the original file (only to get potentially frustratad).
* While discussing options, in classic TW there are many dead links 
particularly in the Options menu. Hope this will be avoided.
* Options for what is to appear in SideBarMenu and tiddler Toolbars etc. 
Eg. should "new journal" be there? And even "close all"? And what about 
additional toolbar commands such as "done/close" (ie done AND close) and 
"cancel/close" etc 
(source)<http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#SaveCloseTiddlerPlugin%20CloseOnCancelPlugin%20NewMeansNewPlugin%20NewHerePlugin>.
 
(Maybe this is all for a plugin - but then exactly what is justified to be 
core? "What the majority would like" is probably a decent starting point 
and I personally think something like "done/close" is a lot more usable and 
general than, say, "new journal".)
* Easier handling of tables than in classic tw. More wysiwyg I guess. Maybe 
something as easy(?) as being able to use tab key for spacing columns.
* Functionality like PartTiddlerPlugin 
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#PartTiddlerPlugin (pretty links 
stopped working as I'm writing). Currently we're forced to include visible 
anchors (via "!") or use slices.
* Enhance sliders to be more like tiddlytools NestedSlidersPlugin. I think 
the slider macro is underused (partly due to complicated syntax) - they are 
very powerful from an explanatory point of view and allows you to present 
only relevant information and hide "deeper" information, accessible via a 
click.


Ok, hope someting is of value.

<:-)

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