Hi Måns

Thank you for a terrific summary, highly entertaining!

Thanks also for investigating the recording options, that would be very
useful for next time,

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jeremy
>
> Thank you for inviting us into your livingroom (and a glass of red wine).
>
> It was my first time as an attendee at a videoconference, however it
> turned of to be a both very enlightening and joyfull experience :-)
>
> I used my TWsOS (Puppy Linux) remaster [1] in a live seesion (booted into
> ram from an usb) - and I actually tried to record the "Google Hangout" with
> RecordMyDesktop [2], however it didn't work because of too little RAM - and
> I lost the video in the process... :-(
>
> Next time I will use a frugal installation [3] on an usb stick..
>
>
> I wrote a small summary of our meeting on our Danish TiddlyWiki group [4]:
> Here's a 'quick and dirty' translation into English:
>
> "Hello TW-afficionados
>
> I was fortunate to attend a "Google Hangout" with some of the "Giants" in
> the TW-business.
>
> Jeremy had a small written agenda - and I guess his plan was to stick to
> it, after everyone had said in what direction they wanted TW5 to go..
>
> After a few minutes some of the more innovative ideas were discussed and
> demoed ...
>
> Alex Hough: had questions regarding intuitive recording of images and
> annotation using iPads and phones ...
> Måns: demanded a simple interface (for newcommers/students) and an easy
> way to use an expanded list macro (a lá ForEachTiddlerPlugin - already
> covered in the TW5 documentation)
>
> Alex and I got answers to our questions - and then there was a lively
> debate, demoing and talk about possibiliteis for the userinterface ...
>
> Mario Pietz: talked about Graphic Maps and showed us a very impressive yet
> simple library for creating connections of nodes......(Don't remember the
> name?)
>
> Jeremy: demonstrated Project Cecily (ZUI zooming interface)
>
> Eric Shulman: demoed MoveablePanels and the unlimited scrollable canvas...
>
> It was quite cozy - Jeremy enjoyed a glass of red wine and had some
> crackers along the way (now I know why they are called "crackers" ...) >
> Alex galloped around in his children's room to find a suitable position to
> enjoy the hangout from.
> Mario was probably the one who really had prepared himself for a hangout -
> I guess he sat in his best armchair with a webcam and microphone set up
> properly from the start  ;-)
> Eric was a very good listener even though only the lower part of his face
> was visible  and his video signal often disappeared and came back - in our
> 1 ½ hour conversation. (Atlantic disturbances?)
>
> I was NOT the participants who spoke the best English - but everyone
> seemed to enjoy themselves (and seemed to be thrilled by the fact that I
> was able to keep my pipe "boiling" during most of the meeting)
>
> I had started a TWsOS live session up when I signed up for the meeting -
> and was a little anxious to see if it would work with video and audio on
> this tiny distro (Puppy Linux).
> When I signed up a dialogue popped up, which allowed me to choose which
> type of installer I would use in order to participate.
> There were several different types of Linux (32 or 64 bits) packages. I
> selected "google talkplugin_current_i386.deb" - installed it - and a popup
> window with the video chat was instantly updated ...
>
> I still needed to open retrovol (audio mixer) and turn up the internal
> microphone. (I also used headphones - which is very recommendable btw...)
>
> I tried to make a screencast of the  hangout - but ran out of space in the
> tmp/ram dir (low ram) - and had to abandon my little "sideproject". Next
> time I will boot from a frugal install and see if it helps ...
>
> I would recommend Google hangout for anyone with a webcam and a working
> microphone  -> but I think you have to have to try it a few times before
> you are able to completely focus on the topics you want to discuss...
>
> On the other hand, "free talking"  together with video *is* fun and the
> fact that you can share a view of your desktop is perfect for quick demoing.
>
> Let me know if you would want to try Google hangout - It's particularly
> suitable for displaying desktop and demonstration of what you're. doing in
> a browser. It is no problem to be MANY attendees at the same live chat at
> once"
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> [1] http://xn--mns-ula.dk/TWsOS/
> [2] http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php
> [3] http://puppylinux.org/wikka/InstallationFrugal
> [4] http://www.linux-abc.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1837#p9118
>
> Den tirsdag den 14. maj 2013 09.52.27 UTC+2 skrev Jeremy Ruston:
>>
>> Last night's inaugural hangout was fun and useful, and thank you to the
>> participants for taking the time. There was some spirited discussion of:
>>
>> * What people find valuable in TW classic, and want to see in TW5
>> * Using TW5 on iPad/iPhone
>> * What should be the boundaries of the core?
>> * Keeping the interface simple
>> * A demo of several of Eric's classic plugins
>>
>> You can see the faces here:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/**109308865556494599029/posts/**4uVGV8Mrn11<https://plus.google.com/109308865556494599029/posts/4uVGV8Mrn11>
>>
>> I didn't manage to figure out how to record the session, but will try to
>> sort that out for next time.
>>
>> I've started a poll for the time and date of the next hangout:
>>
>> http://doodle.com/**7kup9xqny23pucep <http://doodle.com/7kup9xqny23pucep>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>
>


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