I just noticed that the time slots were being displayed in a confusing
order in the Doodle poll, so I've rearranged them.

Måns - I think as a result your answers have been scrambled, apologies for
that,

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Måns
>
> Thank you for a terrific summary, highly entertaining!
>
> Thanks also for investigating the recording options, that would be very
> useful for next time,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeremy
>>
>> Thank you for inviting us into your livingroom (and a glass of red wine).
>>
>> It was my first time as an attendee at a videoconference, however it
>> turned of to be a both very enlightening and joyfull experience :-)
>>
>> I used my TWsOS (Puppy Linux) remaster [1] in a live seesion (booted into
>> ram from an usb) - and I actually tried to record the "Google Hangout" with
>> RecordMyDesktop [2], however it didn't work because of too little RAM - and
>> I lost the video in the process... :-(
>>
>> Next time I will use a frugal installation [3] on an usb stick..
>>
>>
>> I wrote a small summary of our meeting on our Danish TiddlyWiki group
>> [4]: Here's a 'quick and dirty' translation into English:
>>
>> "Hello TW-afficionados
>>
>> I was fortunate to attend a "Google Hangout" with some of the "Giants" in
>> the TW-business.
>>
>> Jeremy had a small written agenda - and I guess his plan was to stick to
>> it, after everyone had said in what direction they wanted TW5 to go..
>>
>> After a few minutes some of the more innovative ideas were discussed and
>> demoed ...
>>
>> Alex Hough: had questions regarding intuitive recording of images and
>> annotation using iPads and phones ...
>> Måns: demanded a simple interface (for newcommers/students) and an easy
>> way to use an expanded list macro (a lá ForEachTiddlerPlugin - already
>> covered in the TW5 documentation)
>>
>> Alex and I got answers to our questions - and then there was a lively
>> debate, demoing and talk about possibiliteis for the userinterface ...
>>
>> Mario Pietz: talked about Graphic Maps and showed us a very impressive
>> yet simple library for creating connections of nodes......(Don't remember
>> the name?)
>>
>> Jeremy: demonstrated Project Cecily (ZUI zooming interface)
>>
>> Eric Shulman: demoed MoveablePanels and the unlimited scrollable canvas...
>>
>> It was quite cozy - Jeremy enjoyed a glass of red wine and had some
>> crackers along the way (now I know why they are called "crackers" ...) >
>> Alex galloped around in his children's room to find a suitable position to
>> enjoy the hangout from.
>> Mario was probably the one who really had prepared himself for a hangout
>> - I guess he sat in his best armchair with a webcam and microphone set up
>> properly from the start  ;-)
>> Eric was a very good listener even though only the lower part of his face
>> was visible  and his video signal often disappeared and came back - in our
>> 1 ½ hour conversation. (Atlantic disturbances?)
>>
>> I was NOT the participants who spoke the best English - but everyone
>> seemed to enjoy themselves (and seemed to be thrilled by the fact that I
>> was able to keep my pipe "boiling" during most of the meeting)
>>
>> I had started a TWsOS live session up when I signed up for the meeting -
>> and was a little anxious to see if it would work with video and audio on
>> this tiny distro (Puppy Linux).
>> When I signed up a dialogue popped up, which allowed me to choose which
>> type of installer I would use in order to participate.
>> There were several different types of Linux (32 or 64 bits) packages. I
>> selected "google talkplugin_current_i386.deb" - installed it - and a popup
>> window with the video chat was instantly updated ...
>>
>> I still needed to open retrovol (audio mixer) and turn up the internal
>> microphone. (I also used headphones - which is very recommendable btw...)
>>
>> I tried to make a screencast of the  hangout - but ran out of space in
>> the tmp/ram dir (low ram) - and had to abandon my little "sideproject".
>> Next time I will boot from a frugal install and see if it helps ...
>>
>> I would recommend Google hangout for anyone with a webcam and a working
>> microphone  -> but I think you have to have to try it a few times before
>> you are able to completely focus on the topics you want to discuss...
>>
>> On the other hand, "free talking"  together with video *is* fun and the
>> fact that you can share a view of your desktop is perfect for quick demoing.
>>
>> Let me know if you would want to try Google hangout - It's particularly
>> suitable for displaying desktop and demonstration of what you're. doing in
>> a browser. It is no problem to be MANY attendees at the same live chat at
>> once"
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>> [1] http://xn--mns-ula.dk/TWsOS/
>> [2] http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php
>> [3] http://puppylinux.org/wikka/InstallationFrugal
>> [4] http://www.linux-abc.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1837#p9118
>>
>> Den tirsdag den 14. maj 2013 09.52.27 UTC+2 skrev Jeremy Ruston:
>>>
>>> Last night's inaugural hangout was fun and useful, and thank you to the
>>> participants for taking the time. There was some spirited discussion of:
>>>
>>> * What people find valuable in TW classic, and want to see in TW5
>>> * Using TW5 on iPad/iPhone
>>> * What should be the boundaries of the core?
>>> * Keeping the interface simple
>>> * A demo of several of Eric's classic plugins
>>>
>>> You can see the faces here:
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/**109308865556494599029/posts/**4uVGV8Mrn11<https://plus.google.com/109308865556494599029/posts/4uVGV8Mrn11>
>>>
>>> I didn't manage to figure out how to record the session, but will try to
>>> sort that out for next time.
>>>
>>> I've started a poll for the time and date of the next hangout:
>>>
>>> http://doodle.com/**7kup9xqny23pucep<http://doodle.com/7kup9xqny23pucep>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> mailto:[email protected]
>



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