Hi Mat

The history of TiddlyWiki logos goes something like this...

To begin with, back in 2004/5, TiddlyWiki didn't have the means of
displaying a logo. It was entirely text based, and including an image-based
logo would have broken the single fileness. The one place where I could
display a bitmapped logo without restriction was the favicon; rather than
inventing a logo which would only appear there, and not be echoed in the
design of the page, I went the other way, and made the favicon be a reduced
version of the page. The idea was for the TW page layout to be iconic in
its own right.

A few years later we established tiddlywiki.org as a community wiki site
for TiddlyWiki users. I came up with this initial logo for it:

http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/chrome/site/tworg_logo_med.jpg

There was still regular interest in establishing a TiddlyWiki logo, and so
we decided to focus on coming up with a better logo for tiddlywiki.org,
hence the page that Eric linked to. For a long time, tiddlywiki.org used
the wavy lines logo by Simon.

Fast forward to the present day: Personally, I feel that the boat has
sailed a long time ago on establishing a logo for classic TW (I'm still
open to discussion). But I am interested in finding a logo for TiddlyWiki5;
in TW5 we can incorporate a graphical logo nicely, thanks to the support
for embedded SVGs and bitmaps.

I do have some personal observations about logos in general that probably
bias me horribly:

* A good logo should come from more than just experimenting with the letter
shapes; it needs to deeply reflect the nature of the thing being branded
* Logos should be fresh and original, and not reference/copy other logos
* Professional logos seem to use a lot fewer gradients, highlights and
shadows than we amateurs
* For the web, logos need to work as small square favicons, as well as big,
lush page headings

You can see how I applied those principles in coming up with the
TiddlySpace logo: the simplest thing I could find that represented the
private/public structure of TiddlySpace.

Mat - the two logo experiments you've submitted do pretty well by my
criteria:

* I like the interlocking T&W. Although it's certainly a riff on the shapes
of the letters, as you point out it also incorporates an image of
TiddlyWiki's nature. I'm not so keen on using the TiddlySpace colours:
there the pink and blue are deliberately used to symbolise private and
public respectively; concepts that don't exist in TiddlyWiki itself.
Possibly hyperlink blue is the colour I most closely associate with TW

* The tiddler logo goes down a path that I also think promising. What about
a shoal of tiddlers that together make up a larger shape?

I think by default it would be for me to anoint a logo as the "official"
one. Matters of taste are tricky: I don't want to adopt a logo that I don't
find appealing, but equally I need to listen to the feedback of others.

Best wishes,

Jeremy









On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Mat <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ah, no I was not aware of those! Some nice ones! ...makes me wonder, and
> sorry if I'm gauche but; @Jeremy - is it you that decide? Or who/how?
> @Unamesa? Any criteria set?
>
> BTW, I've updated that tidbits 
> post<http://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]>with a new logo concept.
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:03:04 AM UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> On May 20, 3:08 pm, Mat <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Some sketches for a logo on tidbits space<http://tidbits.**
>> tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]<http://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]>
>> **>
>> > .
>> > So far, it's the best we've got as far as I know (nudge, nudge -
>> challenge,
>> > challenge)
>> > <:-)
>>
>> Have you seen these?
>>
>> http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/**wiki/TiddlyWikiDotOrgLogos<http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlyWikiDotOrgLogos>
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>> Eric Shulman
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