Hi Mike Lovely. The pixelated logos are definitely an interesting idea, and the table cell trick is a fun way to get such a thing working in classic TW. As I say, I do think the boat has sailed with regard to retrospectively applying a logo to classic TW, we should be focussing on a logo for TW5, where we don't have any restrictions (technically, I'd prefer the logo to be an SVG image, rather than a bitmap, so that it renders well on modern high resolution displays).
Best wishes Jeremy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:37 AM, cflow <[email protected]> wrote: > Good to know Jeremy! > > So after cruising the web looking at different themes for TiddlyWiki (as > it's all I do now...) I stumbled across a really well designed TW version > that had something really interesting applied, > Mineral<http://mineral-tiddlywiki.appspot.com/>! > (also found here <http://themes.tiddlywiki.com/mineraltheme.html>). > @BauweBijl designed it, so all props to him. > > While the theme is great, when you open the MineralTheme tiddler in his > example you get a new solution to the logo issue. Using the Table wiki > elements he has created his own logo in the space. > > Using his example and then modifying the displayable CSS, I made the > attached examples. The idea is to use TiddlyWiki design and > implementation to render the logo. Yes, they are pixelated, but thats part > of the charm :) The concepts are, in order: > > - Bookmark - which I particularly like due to the "journal" historical > view of TW > - Iconic - created in response to those that want a logo to be > suitable next to the little Facebook Icons etc. > - Capsule - means the most to me because of how we create the > navigation links within a TiddlyWiki, with the "[" and the "]" and I like > the "light" feel of it. > > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gTHGsYQMINQ/UaKbtBKsLNI/AAAAAAAAABw/2nM7rRiUlxw/s1600/twLogo.png> > To replicate, copy the below example into a tiddler of your own and save. > If we package it with some CSS then the solution gets even clearer. > COPY THIS:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ||!|!||||||||||!|!|| > |!||||||||||||||!| > |!|||!|||||||||||!| > |!|||!|||||||||||!| > |!|||!|!|!||!||||!|||!| > |!|||!||||!||!||!|||!| > |!|||!||||!||!||!|||!| > |!||||!|!|||!||!||||!| > |!||||||||||||||!| > ||!|!||||||||||!|!|| > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::TO HERE > > Let me know what you think :) > > > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:23:00 PM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > >> Hi Mat >> >> The history of TiddlyWiki logos goes something like this... >> >> To begin with, back in 2004/5, TiddlyWiki didn't have the means of >> displaying a logo. It was entirely text based, and including an image-based >> logo would have broken the single fileness. The one place where I could >> display a bitmapped logo without restriction was the favicon; rather than >> inventing a logo which would only appear there, and not be echoed in the >> design of the page, I went the other way, and made the favicon be a reduced >> version of the page. The idea was for the TW page layout to be iconic in >> its own right. >> >> A few years later we established tiddlywiki.org as a community wiki site >> for TiddlyWiki users. I came up with this initial logo for it: >> >> http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/**chrome/site/tworg_logo_med.jpg<http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/chrome/site/tworg_logo_med.jpg> >> >> There was still regular interest in establishing a TiddlyWiki logo, and >> so we decided to focus on coming up with a better logo for tiddlywiki.org, >> hence the page that Eric linked to. For a long time, tiddlywiki.org used >> the wavy lines logo by Simon. >> >> Fast forward to the present day: Personally, I feel that the boat has >> sailed a long time ago on establishing a logo for classic TW (I'm still >> open to discussion). But I am interested in finding a logo for TiddlyWiki5; >> in TW5 we can incorporate a graphical logo nicely, thanks to the support >> for embedded SVGs and bitmaps. >> >> I do have some personal observations about logos in general that probably >> bias me horribly: >> >> * A good logo should come from more than just experimenting with the >> letter shapes; it needs to deeply reflect the nature of the thing being >> branded >> * Logos should be fresh and original, and not reference/copy other logos >> * Professional logos seem to use a lot fewer gradients, highlights and >> shadows than we amateurs >> * For the web, logos need to work as small square favicons, as well as >> big, lush page headings >> >> You can see how I applied those principles in coming up with the >> TiddlySpace logo: the simplest thing I could find that represented the >> private/public structure of TiddlySpace. >> >> Mat - the two logo experiments you've submitted do pretty well by my >> criteria: >> >> * I like the interlocking T&W. Although it's certainly a riff on the >> shapes of the letters, as you point out it also incorporates an image of >> TiddlyWiki's nature. I'm not so keen on using the TiddlySpace colours: >> there the pink and blue are deliberately used to symbolise private and >> public respectively; concepts that don't exist in TiddlyWiki itself. >> Possibly hyperlink blue is the colour I most closely associate with TW >> >> * The tiddler logo goes down a path that I also think promising. What >> about a shoal of tiddlers that together make up a larger shape? >> >> I think by default it would be for me to anoint a logo as the "official" >> one. Matters of taste are tricky: I don't want to adopt a logo that I don't >> find appealing, but equally I need to listen to the feedback of others. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Mat <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ah, no I was not aware of those! Some nice ones! ...makes me wonder, and >>> sorry if I'm gauche but; @Jeremy - is it you that decide? Or who/how? >>> @Unamesa? Any criteria set? >>> >>> BTW, I've updated that tidbits >>> post<http://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]>with a new logo concept. >>> >>> <:-) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:03:04 AM UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote: >>>> >>>> On May 20, 3:08 pm, Mat <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Some sketches for a logo on tidbits space<http://tidbits.**tiddlyspa* >>>> *ce.com/#[[TW%20logo]] <http://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]>* >>>> *> >>>> > . >>>> > So far, it's the best we've got as far as I know (nudge, nudge - >>>> challenge, >>>> > challenge) >>>> > <:-) >>>> >>>> Have you seen these? >>>> >>>> http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/**wik**i/TiddlyWikiDotOrgLogos<http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlyWikiDotOrgLogos> >>>> >>>> enjoy, >>>> -e >>>> Eric Shulman >>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios >>>> >>>> HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY "TIP JAR"... >>>> >>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#**D**onations<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations> >>>> >>>> Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... >>>> Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: >>>> >>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#**C**ontact<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tiddlywiki+...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/**group/tiddlywiki?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeremy Ruston >> mailto:[email protected] >> > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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