Good to know Jeremy!

So after cruising the web looking at different themes for TiddlyWiki (as 
it's all I do now...) I stumbled across a really well designed TW version 
that had something really interesting applied, 
Mineral<http://mineral-tiddlywiki.appspot.com/>! 
(also found here <http://themes.tiddlywiki.com/mineraltheme.html>). 
@BauweBijl designed it, so all props to him.

While the theme is great, when you open the MineralTheme tiddler in his 
example you get a new solution to the logo issue. Using the Table wiki 
elements he has created his own logo in the space.

Using his example and then modifying the displayable CSS, I made the 
attached examples. The idea is to use TiddlyWiki design and implementation 
to render the logo. Yes, they are pixelated, but thats part of the charm :) The 
concepts are, in order:

   - Bookmark - which I particularly like due to the "journal" historical 
   view of TW
   - Iconic - created in response to those that want a logo to be suitable 
   next to the little Facebook Icons etc.
   - Capsule - means the most to me because of how we create the navigation 
   links within a TiddlyWiki, with the "[" and the "]" and I like the "light" 
   feel of it.

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gTHGsYQMINQ/UaKbtBKsLNI/AAAAAAAAABw/2nM7rRiUlxw/s1600/twLogo.png>
To replicate, copy the below example into a tiddler of your own and save. 
If we package it with some CSS then the solution gets even clearer.
COPY THIS::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::TO HERE

Let me know what you think :)


On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:23:00 PM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mat
>
> The history of TiddlyWiki logos goes something like this...
>
> To begin with, back in 2004/5, TiddlyWiki didn't have the means of 
> displaying a logo. It was entirely text based, and including an image-based 
> logo would have broken the single fileness. The one place where I could 
> display a bitmapped logo without restriction was the favicon; rather than 
> inventing a logo which would only appear there, and not be echoed in the 
> design of the page, I went the other way, and made the favicon be a reduced 
> version of the page. The idea was for the TW page layout to be iconic in 
> its own right.
>
> A few years later we established tiddlywiki.org as a community wiki site 
> for TiddlyWiki users. I came up with this initial logo for it:
>
> http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/chrome/site/tworg_logo_med.jpg
>
> There was still regular interest in establishing a TiddlyWiki logo, and so 
> we decided to focus on coming up with a better logo for tiddlywiki.org, 
> hence the page that Eric linked to. For a long time, tiddlywiki.org used 
> the wavy lines logo by Simon.
>
> Fast forward to the present day: Personally, I feel that the boat has 
> sailed a long time ago on establishing a logo for classic TW (I'm still 
> open to discussion). But I am interested in finding a logo for TiddlyWiki5; 
> in TW5 we can incorporate a graphical logo nicely, thanks to the support 
> for embedded SVGs and bitmaps.
>
> I do have some personal observations about logos in general that probably 
> bias me horribly:
>
> * A good logo should come from more than just experimenting with the 
> letter shapes; it needs to deeply reflect the nature of the thing being 
> branded
> * Logos should be fresh and original, and not reference/copy other logos
> * Professional logos seem to use a lot fewer gradients, highlights and 
> shadows than we amateurs
> * For the web, logos need to work as small square favicons, as well as 
> big, lush page headings
>
> You can see how I applied those principles in coming up with the 
> TiddlySpace logo: the simplest thing I could find that represented the 
> private/public structure of TiddlySpace.
>
> Mat - the two logo experiments you've submitted do pretty well by my 
> criteria:
>
> * I like the interlocking T&W. Although it's certainly a riff on the 
> shapes of the letters, as you point out it also incorporates an image of 
> TiddlyWiki's nature. I'm not so keen on using the TiddlySpace colours: 
> there the pink and blue are deliberately used to symbolise private and 
> public respectively; concepts that don't exist in TiddlyWiki itself. 
> Possibly hyperlink blue is the colour I most closely associate with TW
>
> * The tiddler logo goes down a path that I also think promising. What 
> about a shoal of tiddlers that together make up a larger shape?
>
> I think by default it would be for me to anoint a logo as the "official" 
> one. Matters of taste are tricky: I don't want to adopt a logo that I don't 
> find appealing, but equally I need to listen to the feedback of others.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Mat <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Ah, no I was not aware of those! Some nice ones! ...makes me wonder, and 
>> sorry if I'm gauche but; @Jeremy - is it you that decide? Or who/how? 
>> @Unamesa? Any criteria set?
>>
>> BTW, I've updated that tidbits 
>> post<http://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]>with a new logo concept.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:03:04 AM UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 20, 3:08 pm, Mat <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> > Some sketches for a logo on tidbits space<http://tidbits.**
>>> tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]<http://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]>
>>> **> 
>>> > . 
>>> > So far, it's the best we've got as far as I know (nudge, nudge - 
>>> challenge, 
>>> > challenge) 
>>> > <:-) 
>>>
>>> Have you seen these? 
>>>
>>> http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/**wiki/TiddlyWikiDotOrgLogos<http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlyWikiDotOrgLogos>
>>>  
>>>
>>> enjoy, 
>>> -e 
>>> Eric Shulman 
>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios 
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