I suggest that in this thread we can discuss less "how one thinks about 
TWc/TW5" and back to "should this discussion group have a branch so to 
distinguish topics about the two major works", and "if yes, how to 
separate" or "if no, how to make most of the members of this group 
comfortable with different objectives on the group"?

(For me TWc may stay in use for a long time on since I have 20~25MB total 
of TW files/spaces with heavily working plugins which may never be able to 
be transferred upon TW5 cores. However, I do appreciate the fascinating and 
promising bunch of new features TW5 is providing and I also believe that as 
TW5 reaches closer and closer to its first release, more developments and 
contributions may also expand its usage, use cases and functions, to what 
TWc has got in the years and even makes TiddlyWiki more popular. I look 
forward to this happening soon.)

It may be clear to visitors with two dedicated groups for each, and the 
proposal of PMario sounds good to me: rename this group to TW-classic or 
such, and create a new one as "TiddlyWiki" hosting things about TW5. 
Meanwhile I just came up with one technical issue: the URL of the group and 
threads. Since "tiddlywiki" is the suffix for this group, will it change 
with the name of the group? If not, then will it be confusing to visitors 
with this mismatch? But on the other hand, if the URLs do change, will the 
current links of posts and threads broken? I hope that it's just my 
over-worrying and there is in fact no such a problem.

I'm also okay with the current state with TWc and TW5 together If we decide 
to keep it as is. If there are members confused with the two major forks 
then we notice them, help them and make clear how to find needed 
information respectively. I hope and support that both TW5 and TWc continue 
to get development and support as both are and will be really helpful in my 
digital life. Thanks a lot, people!

Cheers
GJRobert

Sticky Notes於 2013年9月2日星期一UTC+8下午2時49分43秒寫道:
>
> The more I see and hear about TW5 the more I think it's too different and 
> targeted at a very different crowd than TWC, and honestly I think it's 
> starting to get a little confusing around here with some topics, and will 
> get worse in the future because the two systems share virtually nothing in 
> common. (It feels kind of like if you had a group that centered around 
> Node.js and Apache at the same time, sure they have some similarities, but 
> really wouldn't want the commonalities for them to be mixed together.)
>
> People coming to this group expecting to find help on TW5 and doing 
> searches are going to find tons of TWC topics that are going to be useless 
> to them, and people like me who plan on staying with TWC for many more 
> years (If I ever abandon it) come here to see what's happening in the TWC 
> world and get help for it which the bizarre mixing of TW5 makes 
> more unpleasant than it should be which will only get worse in the future 
> or even now the topics between the two are getting a bit muddled up.
>
> I would like to propose that the admin and developers for TW5 create a new 
> group for as it is the most practical solution before things really start 
> getting out of hand.
> For my defense on why I think TW5 should be branched off of the group and 
> not TWC is simple this group is filled with years of very helpful TWC 
> backlog posts and moving it to a new group would than cause us to loss all 
> of that.
>

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