This topic is getting a bit blown off topic and not quite what I was going
for when I made the post, but I don't think anyone here has actually
"complained about the uselessness of software" per-se.
Arc may sound a bit overly invested with TWC and harsh on TW5 but really it
sounds most like his main complaint/passion/concern in his argument comes
from the fact that he really loves TWC and doesn't want to see people pass
it over as old junk-ware just because there is something with a "newer
sounding name".
I don't know what "Logos" is and there seems to be quite a few things with
it's name, but I do know a little project called Drupal that tends to go
though pretty major changes on it's major versions numbers. Though at that
point the Drupal community is based around this knowledge and there website
and resources make it very easy to find information and resources for each
major versions.
I'd like to stop a moment and say again I'm not on Arc's side I
think Developers can name there stuff anything they want and manage them
any way they feel like.
But I can see his point in that TidilyWiki as a whole dose not have a well
known history for this kind of thing and the resources and help that can be
found are very fragmented all around the internet, unlike say Drupal's
content which tends to be very well managed and it's very rare that you
find yourself looking at info for Version 5 when you where looking for help
on Version 6, 7, 8 or even 4 for that matter because for a very long time
in the community everybody has known it changes a lot between each version
number and it's important to keep things well organized.
Digressing a tad once again looking at Drupal (Which I spend a lot of time
with and why I'm using it as my example.) Each major version of Drupal is
made to replace the last, it doesn't mean you HAVE to upgrade but the
target is to make a system that each time it's better at doing the same
things as the old one it doesn't change a lot of things very often that
makes it hard to migrate (Unless you have a very complex
site/application built around it) nor dose it changes it in ways that break
every single plug-in most just need some tweaking to work with the new
calls and framework where as TW5 doesn't really seem to be the same way...
It seems to be built very differently and has had a lot of things done that
could easily make migration harder than it could be.
Unless you have a fairly simple setup It kind of looks like you have
to reinvent your entire setup when moving to TW5.
I haven't played with it much but when I did it didn't seem like you could
easily transfer your style-sheets, your templates, your custom fields,
your transclusions, or even much of your inline styling such as
{Classname{{Stuff}}} ...etc very well. TW5 really dose feel more like
a complete reinventionment rather than an update to make it more modern.
Again that being said I'm not siding with anything I'm just trying to
give perceptive on why, it may be rubbing some people in the wrong way, and
hoping to providing a more 3rd person look at what is probably a more
"passionate" retort than it needed to be in order to avoid any unneeded
drama because of my post.
Of course that being said I think the developers of TWC should be proud
that they have made such an amazing piece of code that they have fans who
are willing to come to bat for it and say that it's going to be really hard
to ever replace, it's really quite a big complement more than anything.
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