On Friday, September 6, 2013 2:00:19 AM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> For me the space is broken atm. I can't open any tiddler. It does a 
> browser reload, whenever I click a link. Tested with FF and Chrome.
>
> Yes, sorry. I overlooked a nasty configuration issue with 
> SinglePageHistoryPlugin when introducting the ability to turn single page 
> mode off and so you were left with a non-functioning space for about one to 
> three hours as it essentially kept on trying to reopen the Welcome tiddler.
>

Seems to work now. cool!
I didn't see the long running "script issue" again :)
 

> I did read TOS and Privacy Statement from disqus a long time ago. Since 
>> then I'm blocking it with "Ghostery firefox plugin"
>>
>  
> You can think what you want of such a service. It's not like people are 
> forced to use that or facebook or anything. You could actually say the very 
> same of google groups. 
>

I'm quite sensitive and may be opinionated about services that add a bunch 
of 3rd party cookies and code to the site I'm using. We should not use 
them, if there are better possibilities. 
 

> You can just skip it altogether. 
>

That's the problem. Without very drastic measures, I can't skip it, if I 
want to view the customize space, because the service is _allways_ loaded 
by the ViewTemplate. If it would be a "lazy loaded button" eg: "View 
Comments", I have the choice to not click it. If it automatically loads all 
the stuff, I don't have a choice. ... For me this makes a difference in UX 
and privacy. 
 

> To me, what's important are the capabilities. 
>

Yes. I'd love to have a better experience with a TiddlySpace comment system.
 

> Remember TypeWithMe? Services vanish... others reserve a right to my 
> private pictures. I prefer to weigh the options... interaction vs. 
> ownership. I couldn't care less about the latter.
>

There are services, that don't reserve rights to your private pictures... 
[1]
There are services, that don't reserve rights to your content and don't 
spam you with adds [2]
 

> I think, people are much more confused about hitting some reply button 
> (especially when not even registered with TiddlySpace) and then finding a 
> tiddler by that name in their space not knowing if anyone ever notices.
>

Yes, that's an interface problem, which we should try to solve. ...
 

> So, instead, there's a disqus comment thread, some simple input field to 
> type a reply and hit submit. Everyone knows how to do that instantly.
>

So using a 3rd party service is so much better than what I did at: 
http://compare-tw2-tw5.tiddlyspace.com/ 
IMO just the CSS is different and you have to be logged in to TS to avoid 
spam. For me if someone is logged in to TS and does comment there, has 
value. It creates a tiddler, we can work with using our service. ...
 

> Now that I've actually configured it so that people don't need to be a 
> registered user of sorts, I think it's by far more usable than any current 
> out of the box means TiddlySpace is offering. As for me, those discussions 
> must not be for the "in-crowd" alone.
>

Anonymus content stored at a 3rd party "black hole" just adds noise and 
doubles the page load time, to about 4 seconds for me. Pure TS page load is 
<2 seconds, which is still quite long. 

-m

[1] https://trovebox.com/
[2] http://tiddlyspace.com

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