Hi Ton

> I feel like using TiddlyWiki with node.js is way beyond me. I have node.js
>> installed, but I know nothing about it and would need a step by step
>> walkthrough from someone, answering my questions along the way.
>>
>
When things are set up properly, the steps will be as simple as:

* One step to install node.js (a one click install for most platforms)
* One step to install TW (in the command line type "npm install tiddlywiki")
* One step to run TW in a given folder and (something like "tiddlywiki
--new myfolder")

There will be no need to mess with git or github.

Anyhow, we're not quite there yet.


> That's true for me as well. I did install it but then I miss the latest
> additions to TW5 when downloading master.zip. At
> http://five.tiddlywiki.com/ I see a ReadOnly theme but that is not in the
> master.zip.
>

That's confusing. How are you downloading the master.zip? The readonly
theme has been in the master branch of TW5 for a week or so, and so should
be in there.


> There must be a way via Github I think, but I did only succeed in the
> Cygwin way. I installed Github according David Jonston's walkthrough but
> that did not work (missing steps in the walkthrough?)
>
>>
>> I am waiting on the list widget and anything remotely like that because I
>> want to know if the refactoring Jeremy is working on will change things
>> like that. Supposedly there will be a dropdown way to add tiddlers to lists
>> and lists to tiddlers. I am forcing myself to wait for that before I get
>> into lists in any serious way. All I did was have a conversation with
>> Jeremy about a similar potential mechanism where by "listing" one tiddler
>> in another, both tiddlers would be connected to each other equally in a two
>> way process. But that probably won't happen.
>>
> We'll wait.
>

Dave and I had some back and forth about this two way list idea, and my
(tentative) conclusion is that the features Dave describes are equivalent
to those already present in TW5.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Ton Gerner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> 1) There is an updated version of my TW5 with top menu and toolbar
>>> buttons [1].
>>> Now it contains buttons for 'new tiddler', 'Control panel', 'save',
>>> 'close all', 'search', 'toggle view' and 'toggle sidebar' buttons.
>>> Besides a demo it is a step by step guide for adding a fixed top menu
>>> with toolbar buttons to a standard TW5.
>>> The buttons are now transcluded in $:/TopSideBar, so the approach is
>>> more modular to ease adding only certain toolbar buttons.
>>>
>>> 2) What do you think of adding instructions for installing node.js?
>>> David Johnston made a walkthrough [2] and with his help I succeeded in
>>> installing node.js (the cygwin route, NOT the github route).
>>> I plan to do a node.js install on another PC (the cygwin route) and note
>>> done all necessary steps.
>>> Interested?
>>>
>>> 3) My knowledge of the <$list> widget is minimal and the documentation
>>> at http://five.tiddlywiki.com/ misses simple examples.
>>> David Johnston seems to do a lot with it and I understood you are
>>> experimenting with it as well.
>>> Are you planning to add some simple examples for use of the <$list>
>>> widget?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ton
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.**com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm>
>>>
>>> [2] https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/tiddlywikidev/ZwcOcrTzPys/**
>>> c9xOwBzn_T8J<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/ZwcOcrTzPys/c9xOwBzn_T8J>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:13:37 AM UTC+2, Pat O'Brien wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for having a collection area for all modifications TW5. Will
>>>> surely be a resource as it comes to upgrade time (from alpha to beta)!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 10:56:21 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>
>>>>> Seeing the cool stuff David Johnston is doing for TW5 got me really
>>>>> excited about the many possibilities for TW5. Tonight I whipped up a 
>>>>> modest
>>>>> collection of how-tos, aimed at new users. I call it TW5 mall. See it at
>>>>> http://www.giffmex.org/**tw5mall**.htm<http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask two things of you:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. How do I get rid of the stylesheet tag pill in the Index?
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Please submit either here or by email, the kinds of things you
>>>>> think should be added to the mall, preferably with explanations of how to
>>>>> do them. As I learn TiddlyWiki 5 better, everyone wins, because I can try
>>>>> to communicate my learning to other new users who like myself are not
>>>>> coders / programmers / developers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am quite happy to donate any of these tiddlers to whatever Jeremy
>>>>> and team come up with in terms of an official site with tutorials, tips 
>>>>> and
>>>>> tricks, themes, macros, plugins, widgets, and other goodies. But until 
>>>>> then
>>>>> I am doing this first of all for me, as a storage place for stuff I want 
>>>>> to
>>>>> remember how to do, but also for others who may benefit from it until
>>>>> something more official gets cooked up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
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