Hi Ton



Thanks for your patience. The issue is that I mistakenly failed to add the 
ReadOnly theme to the edition that is used when you run serve.sh. I'll fix 
tomorrow, but as a workaround you can find the ReadOnly theme in the System tab 
of the sidebar in five.tiddlywiki.com and drag it to the browser window showing 
your 0.0.0.0:8080. Anowhow, all that bash nonsense won't be necessary soon.




Best wishes




Jeremy

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Ton Gerner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
> On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:51:50 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ton
>>  
>>
>>> I feel like using TiddlyWiki with node.js is way beyond me. I have 
>>>> node.js installed, but I know nothing about it and would need a step by 
>>>> step walkthrough from someone, answering my questions along the way.
>>>>
>>>
>> When things are set up properly, the steps will be as simple as:
>>
>> * One step to install node.js (a one click install for most platforms)
>> * One step to install TW (in the command line type "npm install 
>> tiddlywiki")
>> * One step to run TW in a given folder and (something like "tiddlywiki 
>> --new myfolder")
>>
>> There will be no need to mess with git or github.
>>
>> Anyhow, we're not quite there yet.
>>  
>>
>>> That's true for me as well. I did install it but then I miss the latest 
>>> additions to TW5 when downloading master.zip. At 
>>> http://five.tiddlywiki.com/ I see a ReadOnly theme but that is not in 
>>> the master.zip.
>>>
>>
>> That's confusing. How are you downloading the master.zip? The readonly 
>> theme has been in the master branch of TW5 for a week or so, and so should 
>> be in there.
>>
> David Johnston made a guide for installing node.js on Windows [1] which I 
> followed:
> I did install Github and lateron Cygwin but the command sh was not 
> recognized which was a path problem.
> After appending C:\cygwin\bin; to the path it did work. Lateron I made a 
> batch file to execute the build (change to the right directory, build TW 
> with 'sh bld.sh' and start the server with 'sh serve.sh').
> Today I downloaded master.zip 
> (http://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/archive/master.zip) and unzipped 
> it all according to David's recipe.
> Executing the batch file gave 2 failures (44 tests, 40 assertions, 2 
> failures)
> Error 1: Expected '$:/TiddlerTwo, TiddlerOne' to be 'TiddlerThree, 
> TiddlerOne'
> Error 2: Expected '$:/TiddlerTwo' to be 'TiddlerTwo, TiddlerOne'
> Starting Firefox with http://localhost:8080/ which opened TW5 but WITHOUT 
> the ReadOnly theme I saw at http://five.tiddlywiki.com/
> To exclude cache problems I tried with Chrome as well with the same result: 
> no ReadOnly theme.
> [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/ZwcOcrTzPys/c9xOwBzn_T8J
> So, no idea what's going wrong.
> Cheers,
> Ton
>>  
>>
>>> There must be a way via Github I think, but I did only succeed in the 
>>> Cygwin way. I installed Github according David Jonston's walkthrough but 
>>> that did not work (missing steps in the walkthrough?)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am waiting on the list widget and anything remotely like that because 
>>>> I want to know if the refactoring Jeremy is working on will change things 
>>>> like that. Supposedly there will be a dropdown way to add tiddlers to 
>>>> lists 
>>>> and lists to tiddlers. I am forcing myself to wait for that before I get 
>>>> into lists in any serious way. All I did was have a conversation with 
>>>> Jeremy about a similar potential mechanism where by "listing" one tiddler 
>>>> in another, both tiddlers would be connected to each other equally in a 
>>>> two 
>>>> way process. But that probably won't happen.
>>>>
>>> We'll wait.
>>>
>>
>> Dave and I had some back and forth about this two way list idea, and my 
>> (tentative) conclusion is that the features Dave describes are equivalent 
>> to those already present in TW5.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ton
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Ton Gerner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) There is an updated version of my TW5 with top menu and toolbar 
>>>>> buttons [1].
>>>>> Now it contains buttons for 'new tiddler', 'Control panel', 'save', 
>>>>> 'close all', 'search', 'toggle view' and 'toggle sidebar' buttons.
>>>>> Besides a demo it is a step by step guide for adding a fixed top menu 
>>>>> with toolbar buttons to a standard TW5.
>>>>> The buttons are now transcluded in $:/TopSideBar, so the approach is 
>>>>> more modular to ease adding only certain toolbar buttons.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) What do you think of adding instructions for installing node.js?
>>>>> David Johnston made a walkthrough [2] and with his help I succeeded in 
>>>>> installing node.js (the cygwin route, NOT the github route).
>>>>> I plan to do a node.js install on another PC (the cygwin route) and 
>>>>> note done all necessary steps.
>>>>> Interested?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) My knowledge of the <$list> widget is minimal and the documentation 
>>>>> at http://five.tiddlywiki.com/ misses simple examples.
>>>>> David Johnston seems to do a lot with it and I understood you are 
>>>>> experimenting with it as well.
>>>>> Are you planning to add some simple examples for use of the <$list> 
>>>>> widget?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ton
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] 
>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.**com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm>
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/tiddlywikidev/ZwcOcrTzPys/**
>>>>> c9xOwBzn_T8J<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/ZwcOcrTzPys/c9xOwBzn_T8J>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:13:37 AM UTC+2, Pat O'Brien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for having a collection area for all modifications TW5. Will 
>>>>>> surely be a resource as it comes to upgrade time (from alpha to beta)!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 10:56:21 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seeing the cool stuff David Johnston is doing for TW5 got me really 
>>>>>>> excited about the many possibilities for TW5. Tonight I whipped up a 
>>>>>>> modest 
>>>>>>> collection of how-tos, aimed at new users. I call it TW5 mall. See it 
>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>> http://www.giffmex.org/**tw5mall**.htm<http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ask two things of you:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. How do I get rid of the stylesheet tag pill in the Index?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Please submit either here or by email, the kinds of things you 
>>>>>>> think should be added to the mall, preferably with explanations of how 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> do them. As I learn TiddlyWiki 5 better, everyone wins, because I can 
>>>>>>> try 
>>>>>>> to communicate my learning to other new users who like myself are not 
>>>>>>> coders / programmers / developers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am quite happy to donate any of these tiddlers to whatever Jeremy 
>>>>>>> and team come up with in terms of an official site with tutorials, tips 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> tricks, themes, macros, plugins, widgets, and other goodies. But until 
>>>>>>> then 
>>>>>>> I am doing this first of all for me, as a storage place for stuff I 
>>>>>>> want to 
>>>>>>> remember how to do, but also for others who may benefit from it until 
>>>>>>> something more official gets cooked up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
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