Hi Leo The answers from David, Andrew, Michael and Alfonso all contain the observation that TiddlyWiki Classic got to the point where it met many peoples needs, and that they've largely been able to continue using it without further improvements (apart from handling changes in new browsers).
For the people who switched away from TiddlyWiki, I suspect that many just embraced the need to be continually online, and moved to products like Google, Tumblr, Assana, and the endless cloud synced todo list services. The biggest trend in computing since TiddlyWiki launched is the rise of smartphones. They made being online nearly ubiquitous, but they also brought in a wave of apps that offered reasonable offline capabilities. There are many, many apps for iOS, for instance, that allow offline editing of Markdown files and sync to Dropbox. My other perspective is that as TiddlyWiki reached the peak of its popularity, it got harder to improve without breaking something. The main reason was that TiddlyWiki Classic had a fairly poor internal architecture that got pretty much frozen as the plugin ecosystem arose. So our desires to make fundamental improvements were endlessly constrained by backwards compatibility. This in turn meant that the TiddlyWiki code base fell further and further behind the conventions that were emerging across the JavaScript development community. By 2011 or so, my own view had become that TiddlyWiki's enduring success strongly validated the basic user experience, but that the TiddlyWiki Classic codebase was dead as a platform for future innovation - despite the many users who were happy with using it every day. And that's what led me to start development on TiddlyWiki5 in earnest. Part of the freedom I've enjoyed to do that is the knowledge that TiddlyWiki Classic is still working, and will continue to be usable into the future. Best wishes Jeremy. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Handoko Suwono <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear Leo et al, > > I think TWc has been matured all along, but not TW5 which has different > approach. I mean there are too many 'new' terms in TW5 to dwell in (and > tell the newbs outthere). I too will keep-on using TWc because there are > more plugins avail to make it tweaked. I don't mind for browser changes or > putting images elsewhere. I am saving my time to forget TW5 is all about. I > am afraid it goes nowhere right now for trying to fix what was lacking with > TWc and move-on. It's not much a different product than TWc to my > understanding. So for now I will drop TW5 until it matured enough to begin > again. > > On the other hand I need TW for collaboration and embedded commenting, and > found TWSpace is a good replacement or complemence to TWC. TW Space is the > cloud version of static TWC. However I may not reading enough to put them > properly in my space. > > Cheers, > > Handoko - > > > On Friday, January 17, 2014 11:33:48 AM UTC+7, Leo Staley wrote: >> >> I'm looking for resources, and I come accross all this sites 5 to 8 years >> old, many of which are completely gone now. Hardly anybody who used to use >> it seems to be using it anymore, which I find odd. Is there some other tool >> or program that people have started using instead?? It's such an amazingly >> useful tool, and I can tell this before even knowing how to utilize it! >> Now, I know that a big problem with TiddlyWiki is the learning curve, but >> I'm finding dozens of sites of people who seemed to have gotten over that >> learning curve, and then... forgot about TiddlyWiki? >> >> Does anybody have any insight to TiddlyWiki's reduced presence on the >> interent? It seems that that when Tiddlysnip stopped working on Firefox, >> that may have been a contributor, but not enough... I can't imagine what >> replacement people would have begun using, if they had gotten the hang of >> TiddlyWiki and then left. With the exception of Tobias Beer, it doesn't >> seem like anybody has created or supported any plugins for at least 2 or 3 >> years. >> >> So, thoughts, anybody? >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
