Hi Mario,
> Do you think we should adopt a convention for easily marking our wikis so >> that other people know what we're happy with? >> > > Yes, and I think we already do. > I was thinking of, for example, a tiddler "$:/license" that could be easily set - that way when, say Jed or Tobias creates a new wiki, they can set the flag to let me know they don'y mind me re-mixing their work. I was really referring to the possible adoption of a convention of part of a distributed documentation project - I can host a version of the docs, mark it as cc-by-sa and whoever wants to can take what they like. > cc-by-sa is a moderately restrictive version in the cc family, because of > the SA (share alike) which disallows commercial use, if the initial version > if free of charge. > Disagree. Just because the original distribution has a price of $0.00, doesn't mean you can't remix it, however minimally, and sell it for $1. After all, there is an NC license to stop this if you care. This page - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/ - specifically says that CC-BY-SA "lets others remix, tweak, and build upon your work even for commercial > purposes, as long as they credit you and license their new creations under > the identical terms." I suppose it's true that there are corporations and evil super-villains who would like to take work from the public domain and put it behind a pay wall and this license is indeed "more restrictive" in the sense that it restricts them from doing so. But it is clearly more supportive of the //aims// of free content than the cc-by license alone. I suppose the reason it is possible for very intelligent people to discuss issues like this for decades is that there are no clear answers, only more questions. Which is the greater freedom, the freedom to shoot people or the freedom not to get shot? > The core CC-BY is there for a reason, because TWclassic and TW5 software > has always been BSD, which allows commercial use. So the core docs needed a > similarly open license. > I don't really see why the tiddlywiki docs need a license that allows people to include them as part of a commercial product, but I'm sure you came to the decision by a sensible process. Of course, the lack of a "share-alike" provision would seem to allow me to change all the images and the font and then issue my own version of the docs which is copy-right to me, since I'm free to change the license? > You can start with a very restrictive license eg: CC-BY-NC-ND > <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/> > Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives > 4.0 International <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/> and > loosen it afterwards. > > The other way around is _not_ possible! > > To be honest, thinking about this sort of stuff for any length of time makes me want to "do an Aaron" and start siphoning huge pipes of data out from behind paywalls and spraying them all over the internet, but I have to remind myself how that all ended for him. I nevertheless remain cc-by-sa 'til I die :) Regards, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/88de30bf-ddbf-47e0-92dc-45a0f234099f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
