Ciao Tobias for the detailed reply. We are NOT at odds. Though probably talking about slightly different things.
To make it clear I was, and am, centrally focussed on the poor, poor nature of Google Groups. Its simplicity as a threaded discussion group is good. After that everything about it is Crap 101. I feel it needs to change. I'm not alone in that. Practically speaking I got a brilliant answer inspired by a Reddit post that I wrote that solved a long term issue I have had over how to URL post properly URI encoded Tiddlers that Telmiger (http://tinyurl.com/zp3cc5s) answered with a working solution. The Google version is here: http://tinyurl.com/hwy99v4 though the unfoldment was on Reddit & Twitter. That is saying something. I tried here in this GG and failed in the past. To be clear "documentation" is multi-facted, as you say. But if the most used system is a mess then its NOT good for anything. I content that Google Group is awful for anything other than fleeting messages. Best wishes Josiah On Saturday, 17 December 2016 08:02:19 UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: > > Hi Josiah, > > You brought up TWEderation as an example for let's say "more scattered" > information than you'd like that somehow doesn't organize nearly as good as > you wish and where you believe reddit could provide a better environment to > more efficiently bring the lose pieces together. > > The first point I would make is that TWEderation is a community effort > (one which I have hardly been involved in due to a new job I've been > working for the better part of this year now, sry about that, Jed & Mat). > However, much more so than for the TiddlyWiki core, if you have something > emerge out of a community effort, of course you'll be looking at a highly > organic project with goals and ideas being addressed and discussed and > tested that perhaps feel a bit like moving goalposts and so you may find it > difficult to get to the bottom of it or whatever you try to do with it or > find out. > > However, I would not project this kind of project-/-plugin-motivated > effort onto the TiddlyWiki project as the underlying foundation, even > though the core may as well present a wide range of topics that beg > addressing and leave you on a quest to figuring out the right entry point > to get things moving or just be able to simply "use" something, you know, > do as others did. > > Although perhaps cumbersome, the process to contribute to improving the > core documentation is quite established, from my point of view... while > sure leaving room for improvement here and there. > > Sure, bringing community documentation together and wrapping all that up > in a more unified searchable tagable folksonomy is an entirely different > thing. So, perhaps, with all the efforts on (that) reddit, perhaps the best > focus for it would be to establishing a kind of "knowledge-base" that does > not itself hold the information you're looking for, but only abstracts for > it, but mostly providing an environment for gathering pointers... to all > the bits of information out there that may help you answer a question or > achieve a goal... while leaving lengthy, at times philosophical ponderings > as well as "please help me" requests in the groups and efforts for a solid > core documentation to the more github oriented workflow. > > So, from a practical point of view, maybe we should discuss separation of > concerns rather than try to figure out the best environment for everything. > > *Google Groups*: whatever you want to discuss (in context) > *TiddlyWiki on GitHub*: if you wish to improve the core (docs) > *Reddit*: if you wish to tie otherwise lose ends together in terms of > bits of information pointing elsewhere > > maybe even a dedicated... > > *StackOverflow:* for figuring things out regarding the core, plugins, > themes from a developer / designer point of view > > ...something along these lines. > > Best wishes, > > Tobias. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/25f628f4-0d91-42d4-9778-9ce73d78a42e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
