Ciao Jan, Steve

I should write separately about what I'm picking up from your work on this.

I think its much more than "slideshows" & "sliders". Its looking pretty 
much like an emergent viable new visual interface for TiddlyWiki too IMO.

Best wishes
Josiah 


On Friday, 2 June 2017 23:15:59 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Steven, Hi Mark,
>
> thanks for testing my presenterPlugin.
> In principle it is meant to provide a very simple way to turn existing 
> sets of Tiddlers into slideshows and to have multiple slideshows in one 
> wiki...your critique shows me that it is not intuitive enough right now.  
> In principle all useres have to do is 
> -to mark slides within the tiddlers too big for one slide (wich can be 
> easily done with an EditorToolbarButton I created) and
> -to save the storyriver as a slideshow and 
> -launch it.
>
> In the remotewindow you have the possibility to launch the actual 
> storyriver as a slideshow without saving.
>
> Originally the possibility to  define a parts of one Tiddler as different 
> slides was meant to turn existing long tiddlers into slideshows without 
> having to clone or divide them which I thought is not practical for the 
> workflow and the organisation of information.
>
> It is quite long to explain in detail how the presenter works: It has a 
> different PageTemplate and reveal-mechanism than the usual display. (In 
> effect it uses a list of temporarily created slice-Tiddlers.) I guess you 
> should start with the pagetemplate if you want to understand what is 
> actually shown.
>
> I would be happy if you gave me feedback what to change to make it easier 
> to use.
>
> Yours Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 11:02:35 PM UTC-4, Mark Kerrigan wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> Dear Jan 
>>>>
>>>> Really like what you've done here.
>>>>
>>>> To echo what Steve wrote, I am also looking for a simpler solution. The 
>>>> idea of using a TiddlyWiki to perform a presentation has always been 
>>>> fascinating to me, unfortunately I work in a very Powerpoint dominated 
>>>> company and most people I work with would be very lost with TiddlyWiki and 
>>>> even though I am fairly skilled in Powerpoints, the ease and flexibility 
>>>> in 
>>>> writing with hypertext is much better than working with Powerpoints. 
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to understand how you constructed your CSS Stylesheet for 
>>>> the presentation mode. Obviously you are using Helvetica Neue, but how 
>>>> does 
>>>> it automatically resize the font? Also how does the mechanism work when 
>>>> you 
>>>> click to the next slide, but it just merely shows the next paragraph?
>>>>
>>>> Me personally, I do not like delivering any slide where clicking the 
>>>> next button only displays 1 additional line of text, so maybe this is not 
>>>> the solution for me since I prefer to show single slides. Me personally it 
>>>> would be easier for me to simply hit a button and have the presenter mode 
>>>> pop out, but instead just being another way to view the tiddlers without 
>>>> the sidebar, the tiddlers centered and I could just zoom in to focus the 
>>>> audience on a particular section before moving onto the next topic.
>>>>
>>>> But overall though, looks very good.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Mark Kerrigan
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 6:57:49 PM UTC-7, stevesuny wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>> wow Jan, this is very impressive. It does many things that I'd like to 
>>>>> do. I'm still searching for a much simpler approach for "Level 1" users 
>>>>> (those who don't do much more than tag and link, and possibly export data 
>>>>> to make slides from Google forms. But I like your work a lot, and will 
>>>>> probalby borrow some of the key pieces once I pull it apart. I'll ask 
>>>>> questions here...Thanks again for posting this. //steve.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 9:49:13 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, Steven just informed me, that there is a Typo in the address;
>>>>>> Correct is
>>>>>>  http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is good you post, 
>>>>>> I just finished a new Version of there Remote,
>>>>>> What needs to be done now is a Theme/Storyview for presentations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>>> thanks for your post. I think creating an environment for slideshows 
>>>>>> would be an important step for TW.
>>>>>> I made a different approach to create slideshows in 
>>>>>> slidesnsotries.tiddlyspot.com.
>>>>>> -It is working with lists instead of tags. 
>>>>>> Under stories in the sidebar it contains a tool to save and load 
>>>>>> lists of tiddlers.
>>>>>> -I made a slideshowremote for a second monitor which can be accessed 
>>>>>> on the pagetoolbar,
>>>>>> -This remote contains a list to jump to tiddlers and buttons to 
>>>>>> change theme and pallete.
>>>>>> -I also have chosen punch as a first attempt for a slideshowtheme but 
>>>>>> I am not really satisfied with the punch theme because it has troubles 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> the fullscreen-mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still looking for a theme/plugin which has more options, 
>>>>>> especially for combining text with images and animations more precisely.
>>>>>> I would like to have a mechanism to split tiddlers in tinier parts 
>>>>>> for presentations (1-5 Prases Maximum) and display the extracted parts 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> something like impress.js or reveal.js.
>>>>>> Alas, this is beyond my skills for now...
>>>>>> I hope some of you share such Ideas, it would be nice to work 
>>>>>> togethert on themes and tools...
>>>>>> - Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:53 schrieb Steven Schneider:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello, all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am playing with the Punch theme, in an attempt to create slideshows 
>>>>>> within existing TiddlyWikis. I've started by trying to set up a Wiki to 
>>>>>> open with a slide show, and then move into a more familiar presentation 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> the wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In https://stevesunypoly.updog.co/adam/empty.html (a dropbox hosted 
>>>>>> TW via updog), I've done a bunch of work to get it started. I was 
>>>>>> wondering 
>>>>>> if anyone else has played with a similar approach, or has comments on 
>>>>>> what 
>>>>>> I'm doing here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //steve.
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