Hi Josiah,
thanks for the feedback which gave me a new Idea:
So far the presenter has to be switched on manually, because it is not possible to save in the view mode. I could make a launch-button to save the wiki simultanuosly so that the wiki would start in presentationmode.
I am going to realize this when I am back next week.

Hasta pronto Jan


Am 02.06.2017 um 23:46 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
Ciao Jan, Steve

I should write separately about what I'm picking up from your work on this.

I think its much more than "slideshows" & "sliders". Its looking pretty much like an emergent viable new visual interface for TiddlyWiki too IMO.

Best wishes
Josiah


On Friday, 2 June 2017 23:15:59 UTC+2, Jan wrote:

    Hi Steven, Hi Mark,

    thanks for testing my presenterPlugin.
    In principle it is meant to provide a very simple way to turn
    existing sets of Tiddlers into slideshows and to have multiple
    slideshows in one wiki...your critique shows me that it is not
    intuitive enough right now.  In principle all useres have to do is
    -to mark slides within the tiddlers too big for one slide (wich
    can be easily done with an EditorToolbarButton I created) and
    -to save the storyriver as a slideshow and
    -launch it.

    In the remotewindow you have the possibility to launch the actual
    storyriver as a slideshow without saving.

    Originally the possibility to  define a parts of one Tiddler as
    different slides was meant to turn existing long tiddlers into
    slideshows without having to clone or divide them which I thought
    is not practical for the workflow and the organisation of information.

    It is quite long to explain in detail how the presenter works: It
    has a different PageTemplate and reveal-mechanism than the usual
    display. (In effect it uses a list of temporarily created
    slice-Tiddlers.) I guess you should start with the pagetemplate if
    you want to understand what is actually shown.

    I would be happy if you gave me feedback what to change to make it
    easier to use.

    Yours Jan






            On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 11:02:35 PM UTC-4, Mark
            Kerrigan wrote:

                Dear Jan

                Really like what you've done here.

                To echo what Steve wrote, I am also looking for a
                simpler solution. The idea of using a TiddlyWiki to
                perform a presentation has always been fascinating to
                me, unfortunately I work in a very Powerpoint
                dominated company and most people I work with would
                be very lost with TiddlyWiki and even though I am
                fairly skilled in Powerpoints, the ease and
                flexibility in writing with hypertext is much better
                than working with Powerpoints.

                I'm trying to understand how you constructed your CSS
                Stylesheet for the presentation mode. Obviously you
                are using Helvetica Neue, but how does it
                automatically resize the font? Also how does the
                mechanism work when you click to the next slide, but
                it just merely shows the next paragraph?

                Me personally, I do not like delivering any slide
                where clicking the next button only displays 1
                additional line of text, so maybe this is not the
                solution for me since I prefer to show single slides.
                Me personally it would be easier for me to simply hit
                a button and have the presenter mode pop out, but
                instead just being another way to view the tiddlers
                without the sidebar, the tiddlers centered and I
                could just zoom in to focus the audience on a
                particular section before moving onto the next topic.

                But overall though, looks very good.

                Thanks
                Mark Kerrigan

                On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 6:57:49 PM UTC-7,
                stevesuny wrote:

                    wow Jan, this is very impressive. It does many
                    things that I'd like to do. I'm still searching
                    for a much simpler approach for "Level 1" users
                    (those who don't do much more than tag and link,
                    and possibly export data to make slides from
                    Google forms. But I like your work a lot, and
                    will probalby borrow some of the key pieces once
                    I pull it apart. I'll ask questions here...Thanks
                    again for posting this. //steve.

                    On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 9:49:13 AM
                    UTC-5, Jan wrote:

                        Hi all, Steven just informed me, that there
                        is a Typo in the address;
                        Correct is
                        http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/
                        <http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/>

                        It is good you post,
                        I just finished a new Version of there Remote,
                        What needs to be done now is a
                        Theme/Storyview for presentations.

                        Greetings,
                        Jan





                        Hi Steven,
                        thanks for your post. I think creating an
                        environment for slideshows would be an
                        important step for TW.
                        I made a different approach to create
                        slideshows in slidesnsotries.tiddlyspot.com
                        <http://slidesnsotries.tiddlyspot.com>.
                        -It is working with lists instead of tags.
                        Under stories in the sidebar it contains a
                        tool to save and load lists of tiddlers.
                        -I made a slideshowremote for a second
                        monitor which can be accessed on the pagetoolbar,
                        -This remote contains a list to jump to
                        tiddlers and buttons to change theme and pallete.
                        -I also have chosen punch as a first attempt
                        for a slideshowtheme but I am not really
                        satisfied with the punch theme because it has
                        troubles with the fullscreen-mode.

                        I am still looking for a theme/plugin which
                        has more options, especially for combining
                        text with images and animations more precisely.
                        I would like to have a mechanism to split
                        tiddlers in tinier parts for presentations
                        (1-5 Prases Maximum) and display the
                        extracted parts with something like
                        impress.js or reveal.js.
                        Alas, this is beyond my skills for now...
                        I hope some of you share such Ideas, it would
                        be nice to work togethert on themes and tools...
                        - Jan













                        Am 02.12.2016 um 19:53 schrieb Steven Schneider:
                        Hello, all.

                        I am playing with the Punch theme, in an
                        attempt to create slideshows within existing
                        TiddlyWikis. I've started by trying to set
                        up a Wiki to open with a slide show, and
                        then move into a more familiar presentation
                        of the wiki.

                        In
                        https://stevesunypoly.updog.co/adam/empty.html
                        <https://stevesunypoly.updog.co/adam/empty.html>
                        (a dropbox hosted TW via updog), I've done a
                        bunch of work to get it started. I was
                        wondering if anyone else has played with a
                        similar approach, or has comments on what
                        I'm doing here.

                        Thanks,

                        //steve.

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