Ciao Steve That "Sectioned" style out on the net I believe is very related to the huge growth in tablet and smartphone usage. Sites, sort of, shifted from hierarchic drill downs (via menus & links) to visually contiguous "flat space".
This is a lot easier for modest sized viewports where excess menus and *segue* links create messy complexity, making it hard to know where you are. Its not without its problems because some types of differentiation take a beating by being "brought up" & flattened. But my overall sense is that for many situations for TW authors wanting to present things more widely the "sectioned" approach works very well. In my head is a kinda idea of TW that present themselves sectionally (vertical mode) or sliderly (horizontal mode). This is all a user sees. Sections/Tiddlers/Tranclusions are added via an editor that appears in a modal and which closes on completion of edit, taking its place directly in flow at the appropriate juncture. Similarly, links to individual tiddlers that need to be viewed outside the flow could go through modals and not persist in the river. Something like that. Just some thoughts Josiah On Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:51:03 UTC+2, Steven Schneider wrote: > > > Josiah, good point -- it's quite as you've described, a sectioned page, > I'd agree. But it supports navigation to "next" and "prev" like slides, and > could easily support additional navigation to "first" and "last" as well. > And it can be ordered / built out of tiddlers, which is a significant > difference. > > And while it is odd, I suppose, that it is an "advance" to make TW tell a > sequential story, when for years I've thought the advance was being able to > tell a non-sequential story. > > Essentially, this is using Jeremy's Punch theme (which I first saw in talky > talky <http://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky/> ), putting a set of tagged > tiddlers into a loop, and switching themes. Nothing earth-shattering -- > unless it is sometthing one needs to do, like for a class or business > presentation. The value-added is that the in-depth wiki sits behind it for > the user. > > > > //steve. > > > On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 2:38:40 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >> Steve >> >> I don't know why you are calling this a "slideshow". >> >> Its very much visually like vast swathes of the normal web now, i.e. a >> sectioned page. >> >> Josiah >> >> On Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:18:39 UTC+2, Steven Schneider wrote: >>> >>> Mark, you might find the slideshow macros I just developed useful. See >>> https://designwritestudio.updog.co/projects/cit-2017/schneider-panel-overview.html, >>> >>> and click on "Presentation" (click on the "x" in the top menu on the right >>> to exit the slideshow and return to the wiki format). All the code you need >>> is in tiddler SlideShowMacros, which also lists the tiddlers you'll need to >>> bring over (I don't know how to make a plugin). Note this replaces >>> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate to support the Punch theme. >>> >>> //steve. >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 11:02:35 PM UTC-4, Mark Kerrigan wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Jan >>>> >>>> Really like what you've done here. >>>> >>>> To echo what Steve wrote, I am also looking for a simpler solution. The >>>> idea of using a TiddlyWiki to perform a presentation has always been >>>> fascinating to me, unfortunately I work in a very Powerpoint dominated >>>> company and most people I work with would be very lost with TiddlyWiki and >>>> even though I am fairly skilled in Powerpoints, the ease and flexibility >>>> in >>>> writing with hypertext is much better than working with Powerpoints. >>>> >>>> I'm trying to understand how you constructed your CSS Stylesheet for >>>> the presentation mode. Obviously you are using Helvetica Neue, but how >>>> does >>>> it automatically resize the font? Also how does the mechanism work when >>>> you >>>> click to the next slide, but it just merely shows the next paragraph? >>>> >>>> Me personally, I do not like delivering any slide where clicking the >>>> next button only displays 1 additional line of text, so maybe this is not >>>> the solution for me since I prefer to show single slides. Me personally it >>>> would be easier for me to simply hit a button and have the presenter mode >>>> pop out, but instead just being another way to view the tiddlers without >>>> the sidebar, the tiddlers centered and I could just zoom in to focus the >>>> audience on a particular section before moving onto the next topic. >>>> >>>> But overall though, looks very good. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Mark Kerrigan >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 6:57:49 PM UTC-7, stevesuny wrote: >>>>> >>>>> wow Jan, this is very impressive. It does many things that I'd like to >>>>> do. I'm still searching for a much simpler approach for "Level 1" users >>>>> (those who don't do much more than tag and link, and possibly export data >>>>> to make slides from Google forms. But I like your work a lot, and will >>>>> probalby borrow some of the key pieces once I pull it apart. I'll ask >>>>> questions here...Thanks again for posting this. //steve. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 9:49:13 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, Steven just informed me, that there is a Typo in the address; >>>>>> Correct is >>>>>> http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> It is good you post, >>>>>> I just finished a new Version of there Remote, >>>>>> What needs to be done now is a Theme/Storyview for presentations. >>>>>> >>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>> Jan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Steven, >>>>>> thanks for your post. I think creating an environment for slideshows >>>>>> would be an important step for TW. >>>>>> I made a different approach to create slideshows in >>>>>> slidesnsotries.tiddlyspot.com. >>>>>> -It is working with lists instead of tags. >>>>>> Under stories in the sidebar it contains a tool to save and load >>>>>> lists of tiddlers. >>>>>> -I made a slideshowremote for a second monitor which can be accessed >>>>>> on the pagetoolbar, >>>>>> -This remote contains a list to jump to tiddlers and buttons to >>>>>> change theme and pallete. >>>>>> -I also have chosen punch as a first attempt for a slideshowtheme but >>>>>> I am not really satisfied with the punch theme because it has troubles >>>>>> with >>>>>> the fullscreen-mode. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am still looking for a theme/plugin which has more options, >>>>>> especially for combining text with images and animations more precisely. >>>>>> I would like to have a mechanism to split tiddlers in tinier parts >>>>>> for presentations (1-5 Prases Maximum) and display the extracted parts >>>>>> with >>>>>> something like impress.js or reveal.js. >>>>>> Alas, this is beyond my skills for now... >>>>>> I hope some of you share such Ideas, it would be nice to work >>>>>> togethert on themes and tools... >>>>>> - Jan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:53 schrieb Steven Schneider: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am playing with the Punch theme, in an attempt to create slideshows >>>>>> within existing TiddlyWikis. I've started by trying to set up a Wiki to >>>>>> open with a slide show, and then move into a more familiar presentation >>>>>> of >>>>>> the wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> In https://stevesunypoly.updog.co/adam/empty.html (a dropbox hosted >>>>>> TW via updog), I've done a bunch of work to get it started. 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