Seconded

On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 7:12:27 PM UTC+3, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Do you guys think it would be useful to move this discussion to 
> github under a "Improve New User Onboarding Experience" issue? That way we 
> can have a larger discussion and perhaps generate some action items?
>
> On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 9:03:26 AM UTC-6, Guille Rmo wrote:
>>
>> Hi Furicle. I understand you are not a develope and thus you have a hard 
>> time using docker, node.js, etc. 
>> However, TW5 is actually easy to use without servers and development 
>> tools. 
>> You just save the web page with ctrl + s and then you open it again. 
>> As simple as that. 
>> This is one of the most important goals of this app's, a serverless one 
>> page, one file application that won't need external tools, other than a 
>> modern browser.
>>
>>
>> El miércoles, 15 de noviembre de 2017, 9:58:57 (UTC-6), Furicle escribió:
>>>
>>> I am having a ridiculously complicated time trying to use TW.  I think a 
>>> new user will never jump through all these hoops.
>>>
>>> Firefox is forcing the end of TiddlyFox, fine. There's a great Getting 
>>> Started doc with all the options to replace it.
>>> But darned if I can get any of them I've tried to work....
>>>
>>>    - TW in the Sky Dropbox
>>>       -  either doesn't work, or I can't figure out how to work it.  It 
>>>       authenticates, I've got a folder in Dropbox/Apps, but I can't get it 
>>> to use 
>>>       my tw.  Really needs documentation.
>>>       
>>>
>>>    - TW Desktop
>>>       - no installer, just a zip folder - where do you put it, 
>>>       exactly?  Does it matter?  How am I supposed to know I launch 
>>> something 
>>>       labelled nw.exe?
>>>       - can't see the screens half the time.  Opens randomly hidden or 
>>>       off screen, most of the time
>>>       - Muck around and get the windows to actually be visible, and get 
>>>       it to open and display one of my tiddlers, and it still won't save?
>>>    - Node.js
>>>       - No Windows instructions
>>>    
>>> I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
>>>
>>>
>>> *I'm not dumping on anyone.  I'm grateful for the work done to date.  
>>> I'm not owed anything.  I'm not demanding a darned thing.*
>>>
>>> I'm a reasonably technically advanced current TW classic user, and I can 
>>> not, after spending quite some time at, move forward.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to say this community really needs to take a look at 
>>> usability if it wants to be anything more than a niche product....
>>>
>>>
>>>

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