> > Hi, >> any solution to the problem? >> > > partially. .. I think it can be solved with plugins now. ... My unilink > plugin <https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/>may be an option. >
Please can you elaborate on "partially"? What areas of the TiddlyWiki are not covered by using your Unilink plugin? > > >> I don't believe that Felix and me are the only TiddlyWiki users who are >> struggling with renaming the tiddlers (or tags). >> > > TiddlyWiki contains a new mechanism now, that "batch renames" all existing > tags, if you rename a tiddler title. .. So if you change a tag-tiddler the > core will do the batch processing. > > This doesn't change links like: [[tag-name-here]] in tiddler text. ... But > if you rename your tiddlers a lot you will have a lot of > [[prettylinks|tag-name-tiddler]] anyway. Otherwise your text will be hard > to read. ... The alias-plugin, which is part of uni-link will help your > here. -> No renaming needed! > I'm confused here. What is the difference in renaming the tiddler or the tag? Tag is just a label, isn't is? So changing it should be super simple = there are no links... > > >> Let's go to the roots of TiddlyWiki that positions as a *system of small >> pieces of related information*. How does is play with such a basic >> operation called "change tiddler title" by breaking all references? There >> is probably something I have missed at the beginning but it seems to me >> like building a dam on a river from sugar cubes: you have a solid structure >> just until you fill it with water... >> > > There are many users, where the existing mechanism works well, for a > really long time. ... > > I know, that naming tiddlers is hard! .. That's why I use uni-link ;) and > a theme, that doesn't use tiddler titles as a heading. see: > https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/slant-01/ My tiddler names look > like: this-is-a-tiddler-name, which I don't change anymore. ... > > I use "real headings" at the tiddler body, which allows me to use the > tiddler title as an "index" and I can change the heading as often as I > want. "caption" and "subtitle" are very handy here. > > This works well with the above mentioned plugins, which don't break TWs, > that don't use the plugins, if you copy your texts. (but the functionality > will be different!) > So you implemented something what Jeremy suggested in this thread above: "...users should be able to use GUIDs for tiddler titles if it suits their use case. The missing piece is a way of linking to a tiddler by it's GUID/title, but having a specified field displayed as the text of the link.". This is exact opposite to what Felix'es suggests by using "IDs" for GUIDs. > > >> Is it a technical problem? >> > > Partially yes. The whole core javascript code and UI uses the tiddler > title as a heading. .... because it's easy for new users. > Well, I am new to TiddlyWiki. After few edits to my Wiki I ended with an error: "Missing tiddler "XYZ" – click to create". I cannot agree that it is something what makes new users life easier. I thought I have a centrally managed system in one HTML file that encourages me to create many tiddlers to be connected by links. What I have now is a copy of world wide web system in my PC: a mess of 404 error links where only Google robots have the power to get some relevant data out of it. TiddlyWiki = big data? > > >> Or a too much work to change the system? >> > > Yes. ... If you really want to have it in a different way, without > regressions in functionality, you better start from scratch. It would be > much less work. > > >> Or a backward compatibility problem? >> > A combination of? >> > > Yes. ... > > >> Should we create a plan to untangle it? >> > > IMO it's a plugin- and not a core-problem. > This is a core problem for sure. Tiddler should be an object with an internal ID. Just like in any document database (or NoSQL database). You can add fields to it with values but the object doesn't change it's identity by changing a field value. > > have fun! > mario > Thanks Mario for your informative response. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3f3ad7e6-45c9-4b76-a41e-4404558b94cd%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
