Josiah and others, I'll try to rephrase your point of view, how I understood it. You see that search for the meaning is the essential thing and the main motivation of taking notes or developing one's own TiddlyWiki, "the meaning machine". Once one gets to know TiddyWiki, he/she forms an idea how it could possibly be harnessed to provide novel methods for dealing with what wants to achieve (build meaning for the surrounding information). This way one forms "felt-sense of real need". Then one can turn to the group to ask for apparently technical questions, under which the underlying deeper goal is hidden. With some work, persistence and some help from the group, one can harness TiddlyWiki to some extent. All of this delivers a result or a tool to deal with the original problem.
I feel what you mean, by stating that writing and computers are a step away from direct meaning. Overall, you emphasize *meaning*. I'm more used to terminology of "understanding/world-view", and try to emphasize *relations* between different pieces of information and the *integration* of relevant information within one's own "world-view". It's difficult to imagine emergence of meaning without having relations and integration. This is why I feel our views should have quite a lot in common. However, what is DIRECT meaning? And what is indirect meaning? It seems this distinction is quite important for you. Is TiddlyWiki some kind of link between indirect and direct? Regarding the philosophy I would try to put emphasis on TiddlyWiki's linking tools (for the sake of relations and integration). Maybe through the active BUILDING of links between different pieces of information (tiddlers) we employ the biggest strength of TW? If, while taking notes we actively pay attention to the quality of links (direct links, indirect links via filters, appropriate transclusions), we benefit the most from the uniqueness of TW? [Somehow, I guess that not the search field of TiddlyWiki is the most important thing, even though, just like googling, it's very attractive, addictive and creating sense of euphoria, once you realize that you can GOOGLE your notes! but this googling of the notes is somewhat a rival to the linking.] In the first paragraph, I described how the effort can turn into a result/tool. However, maybe we put to much emphasis on tool creation versus exploration how we should apply the results in the right way? Maybe we move from result to result (from tool to tool) to quickly and do not use them that much? (That's why I tried to push for some prioritization in my earlier posts, get away from the multi-facetedness to some degree and try to look for the essential.) I try to emphasize APPLICATION, because it feels that it's quite underrated to compare with CREATION (of tools). Application is important because it's related to HABITS, which actually define to a large degree who you are. If we believe that TW is somewhat game-changing, this game-changing aspect should come through the APPLICATION of the game-changing tool in the RIGHT way. Maybe the more experienced people could could point towards the essential, so that the beginners could pay extra attention to it, would ACTIVELY use the specific tool in the right way for decent period of time (to change your habits or develop new ones, you need will-power, time and concentrated effort!), so that one could later evaluate the game-changing (?) result of this ACTIVE application? Somehow, I guess that, sometimes, the less technically skilled people should have advantage in the realm of application. Not having to deal with the technical problems of tool creation, they can can put their effort to find the most CREATIVE APPLICATIONS of the existing tools. However, often these tools are buried in the group or scattered around multiple websites and are quite difficult to find and start working with for a beginner or less technically-skilled. What I push for, is that maybe we should share more details HOW we use TiddlyWiki, so that others could benefit from the EXPERIENCE, not just from the RAW tools. I'll finish with the idea, that maybe these issues we discuss could be important for TW in a practical sense. Maybe important philosophical ideas could direct the development of TiddlyWiki to some extent? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/aab3a1f9-650a-4e32-b50c-7549b6c3920e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

