Tony,
Just brainstorming... we could put in some kind of variable that ask the
user if this is a stand-alone html wiki or a node.js wiki and then based on
that, build the links with the # character or not.

Can you export a "static" site from an html single file tiddlywiki? I
thought that was only possible from something like node.js.

Scott


On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 7:57 PM TonyM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Thanks so much for responding to the rss request, I only asked because I
> expected it to be close to atom.
>
> Perhaps the rss/atom feeds are looked at by search engines?
>
> I have being considering sitemap.xml as well. Search engines may very well
> open tiddlywiki for every "url" in th sitemap, it may judge them too big.
> My feeling is if you want to enhance search engine access you do need to
> host static html tiddlers in addition to the wiki. Be it automatically with
> node or via export with single file, however I want to change the
> template(s) used, so all links in the resulting static tiddlers point to
> the tiddlers in the wiki. Thus all wiki.com/tiddlername static tiddlers
> are named in the sitemap.xml , the search engine will extract content, but
> on opening one of these every link with then open the master wiki
> /tiddler(s) for full functionality wiki.com/#tiddlername.
>
> I think this will be the best hybrid.
>
> wiki.com/folder/tiddlername (Static in sitemap.xml)
> wiki.com/folder/#tiddlername (Tiddlers in wiki.com)
>
> If the single file wiki is hosted on php say with tw-receiver I believe we
> can find a way, even a html/php form that will submit/save sitemap.xml, rss
> and atom feeds and possibly even static tiddlers with a little work.
> Methods should also be possible on other servers.
>
> This does not break the single file model because these are simply
> supplementary files that complement the real site, can be done without, but
> if present will boost searchability.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 4:21:06 AM UTC+10, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>
>> TT
>>
>> I am aware of the one from dullroar. Seems to be for the node version.
>> Wasn't away of Sycom's so thanks for that.
>>
>> I realize my solution is far from ideal. Especially for the non-technical
>> types. Mostly it answered my own curiosity of whether it could be done in a
>> simple way like this and I learned a few things in the process so it was a
>> fun little project.
>>
>> This actually builds on an idea I have of using similar functionality to
>> create a sitemap.xml document that could be submitted to Google or other
>> search engines to help get your wiki indexed. I could build the xml but the
>> problem with stand alone html tiddlywikis is that that don't present static
>> pages as the node version does. So basically each page presents the whole
>> wiki to a search engine. I may do it just to do it but not sure how
>> effective it would be in the long run.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:10 AM @TiddlyTweeter <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Really interesting!
>>>
>>> Note sure if you were aware that there are other atom.xml makers, though
>>> for node TW, not standalone.That, I guess, is because, on node you can
>>> auto-output the xml file.
>>>
>>> On TW stand-alone its a bit more problematic to automate because, even
>>> if you made a one-click custom exporter to save it, it would end up in a
>>> directory defined by the browser download mechanism, which may not be ideal
>>> for uploads--though no way a final problem.
>>>
>>> ??But I do think that maintenance of feeds needs to be as automatic as
>>> possible??
>>>
>>> sycom:
>>> https://sycom.github.io/TiddlyWiki-Plugins/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsycom%2Fatom-feed
>>>
>>> dullroar: https://github.com/dullroar/TW5-atomfeed
>>>
>>> Thoughts
>>> TT
>>>
>>> On Monday, 2 September 2019 07:37:14 UTC+2, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've developed a simple system for creating an atom feed for your
>>>> TiddlyWiki. Even single HTML file wikis. It's really just a formatted
>>>> filter list but it will enable you to copy and paste the text to an
>>>> atom.xml file. So, not completely automated but if you want a feed, it
>>>> should work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://techlifeweb.com/tiddlywiki/tw5tribalknowledge.html#How%20to%20create%20an%20Atom%20Feed%20for%20your%20TiddlyWiki
>>>>
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