On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 4:12:52 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote: Thanks for your extensive reply, a few notes: These alternate work flows > and emphasis will most likely be accommodated, but to be clear on my own > perceived need, some comments. > > try the following lines in 0.2.3 and you'll see, it works as you expected. >> .. *There is no need to add ticks to empty lines. * >> ´ line 1 >> ´ line 2 >> >> ´ line 3 > > > *I come from the opposite position*, I want to be able to "select all" > and apply tick, so I am happy for every line to have it, so I do not need > to add ticks selectively. Although I may go through later and remove them > or add content. > > - Unfortunately I can no longer see how to achieve this in the latest > version even with customisation and especially if I use the tick or angle > buttons and there are blank lines in the select. > > I think that's an issue now. I'll have to investigate.
And also In reality a lot of editors especially WYSIWIG, word as an > example places a Paragraph marker in the content when one hits enter. > Yes. That's OK. > > - In word processors You have to shift-enter to insert a new line only. > > Yea, and that's the point. In my world, there is _no_ shift-enter in a paragraph. Most of the time, they only cause problems later, when the text is revised or if it needs to be translated by a 3rd party and so on. ... I can live best without them. There are very rare cases I need one. > > - It may be standard to do <enter><enter> in Wikitext and markup but > this is not intuitive for those not used to writing in markup or some > programming. > > I don't know. If I want to set 2 paragraphs of texts apart in a standard text editor, I have to type 2 <enter>. > > - Perhaps a toggle between the enter key returning one or two new > lines, perhaps we call 2 newlines "paragraph break" in wiki text. > > We do. .. That's how TW works since the beginning. There are more and more users coming from the markdown-side of things. They do have the same behaviour. I know, that many users want hard linebreaks. .. That's why the plugin will ship with a class definition, that will easily let them do this. eg: ».hl line 1 line 2 If you copy the above 2 lines into https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tick-text/ it will work just fine. > > - Or I could use a keybord shortcut tool to make my numeric pad enter > generate \n\n as a paragraph break? > > If it works for you. Fine. On data entry or writing in wiki markup. > If you generally need hard line-breaks you can use the existing suggestion <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D> from tiddlywiki-dot-com. Then it would only need a tag, instead of ticks. As I remember, the initial goal was to use ticks if long texts are copy pasted from other resources. > > > Yours Sincerly, > Somewhat lost again > hmmm, That shouldn't be the case. If you copy this to the page ».hl line 1 new line new line You get 1 paragraph with hard linebreaks. If you copy these ´ line 1 ´ new line ´ new line You get 3 DIVs, that are styled like paragraphs. That's exactly what you wanted. The toolbar buttons have to be fixed for the new behaviour, but that's probably a fast fix. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywikidev/c8a1cea0-3fac-4be8-8913-3b4717b488b9o%40googlegroups.com.
