That would be a great idea. > On Dec 13, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Peter Astrand <astr...@cendio.se> wrote: > > > Hi. Yes, we are aware of that WinVNC needs some work. Unfortunately, we at > Cendio does not have any time to work on this now. Thus, unless someone > else volunteers to fix this, three options remains: > > 1. Do nothing, keep it anyway. Might be useful to some people, for example > those running Windows XP. > > 2. Remove it. > > 3. Sponsor someone else to fix it. > > Although we do not use WinVNC at Cendio, we understand that it's an > important component, so 3) is what remains. My plan is to post a project > on https://www.bountysource.com/ next week, hoping to attract someone that > can do this work, and possibly other sponsors. Goal for the project would > be to get the same level of functionality on Windows 7 as is already > available on Windows XP. > > Does this make sense? > > Regards, > Peter > >> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> >> >> >> As I said before, given that I'm only just starating out with this >> thing (TigerVNC) I shouldn't really be throwing out suggestions to >> the developers at this point, but as that has never stopped me >> before... >> >> I'm not sure what the target market / user base is for this package, >> but if the developers hope to make this into a mainstream mass market >> kind of thing, then I do believe that it would be most helpful to make >> it rather more of a "no brainer", specifically on the Windows (server) >> side. >> >> I mean seriously, in an ideal universe, I'd just be able to tell my >> friend Jessica in Palm Beach (who has very meager understanding of >> computers generally, and who I would like to be able to help, remotely, >> with her occasional computer glitches) "Look, go to this web site, >> download this thing, install it, following the prompts, tell me the >> password, and then I'll connect to you and get your problem sorted out." >> >> I dunno if any of you folks have ever interacted with Dell software >> support, but this is pretty much how their system works. They tell >> you to run this (pre-installed) then and they give you a magic cookie >> and then within 5 minutes they are controlling your Windows PC and >> are seeing everything that you are seeing. It's smooth, a no-brainer, >> and it works. I know. I've seen it. The Windows end-luser doesn't >> have to diddle around with any firewall settings, and in fact never >> even has to set-up a password. >> >> And as long as I'm on this rant, allow me to just mention a couple >> of other unexpected oddities that cropped up as I was trying to get >> this thing going on the Windows (server) side... >> >> After receiveing a clue or three here on this list, I properly ran >> the Windows server configurator tool/thingy and set a password and >> other options. (Actually, I _did not_ set any other options, because >> all of the defaults looked entirely sensible to me.) Then I did what >> I almost always do with newly installed programs on my Windows system >> that I may want to re-run later on... I put a fresh shortcut/icon on >> my desktop for the thing... in this case the TigerVNC (User-mode) server >> itself. Of course, then I wanted to run the thing, so I double clicked >> it. Nothing happened. This is often an indication that I failed to >> tap that second click in fast enough to make Windows happy. So what >> did I do? (What would _you_ do?) I double-clicked the thing again, >> of course. >> >> Well, come to find out a bit later on that the effect of all this was >> that (unbeknownst to me) I ended up having not one but *two* copies of >> the TigerVNC server running on the Windows system simultaneously! Yikes! >> I quickly rebooted in order to clean out this flotsam, and thus returned >> to a more normal state, but the more I think about it, the more the very >> notion of having two of these things running at the same time is deeply >> puzzling. I mean why didn't the second one notice that there was one >> copy already running (and just exit)? And perhaps even more mysteriously, >> how the bleep could two of these even manage to run (without one of them >> erroring out) anyway? Maybe this is just my UNIX networking experience >> getting in the way of my understanding (of Windows networking) again, >> but where I come from, if a given server process starts listening to/on >> a given port, that port becomes the exclusive property of that specific >> process for as long as the process is running. If some other process >> starts up and tries to listen to that port also, it should get an error, >> either in the call to socket() or in the call to listen(). So anyway, >> _something_ is wrong with this picture, and I'll be damned if I know >> what it is. Is the second running instance of the TigerVNC server (on >> Windows) failing to receive proper errors from the kernel, or is it >> receiving them but then (improperly) ignoring them? >> >> >> Regards, >> rfg >> >> >> P.S. Oh! And by the way, the _way_ I found out that I had two running >> instances of the TigerVNC srever on my Win7 systems was _not_ via the >> method that one would expect. Sure, I could have looked and seen this >> odd state of affairs in the Task Manager process list, but I didn't. >> In fact I would never have known what had happened if I hadn't, on a >> whim, taken a quick look at the baby-sized icons that reside over toward >> the right hand side of the task bar. (I'm not really a Windows guy so >> I don't even know what the proper name for these things is/are. Are those >> called "notifications"?) Anyway, I clicked on the little up-arrow that >> always appears just to the left of those things, and then clicked on >> "Configure" and started scrolling down through the list of notification >> do-dads that I could configure. It was then that I noticed that there >> were _two_ of these things in the list, each with a little tiger-face >> icon attached to it. That's how I deduced that I must have been running, >> totally unintentionally, two separate instances of the TigerVNC server >> at the same time on the Windows box. >> >> (I'm still sitting here scratching my head, trying to figure out what >> the semantics would be of having two of these running in parallel on a >> single Windows box.) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK >> Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. >> Download it for free now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Tigervnc-users mailing list >> Tigervnc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-users >> > > > --- > Peter Astrand ThinLinc Chief Developer > Cendio AB http://cendio.com > Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc > 583 30 Linkoping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc > Phone: +46-13-214600 http://google.com/+CendioThinLinc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. 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