Hi

I'm not sure that the "real" application here is a GPSDO. If it is, then 
holdover may well be the easy answer.

Bob

On Apr 8, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Mark Spencer <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my experience in the northern hemisphere if the window is more or less 
> south facing and the window isn't coated with something that absorbs RF 
> energy then an antenna located inside and near the window will frequently 
> (but not always) provide enough signal for a GPS timing receiver to work but 
> it may go into "hold over" from time to time.   I'd be inclined to try an 
> inside antenna before spinning my wheels on other solutions.    
> 
> As another approach, consider that if the GPS receiver can opperate from 
> external DC power or you can arrange for a UPS to power the GPS receiver and 
> it provides a "hold over" mode you could connect the GPS receiver to a 
> suitable antenna at another location then run it in "hold over" mode while 
> moving it inside.   The GPS receiver specs should provide insight into the 
> accuracy you will get while in "hold over" but physically moving the GPS 
> receiver will likely add some additional error unless the receiver was 
> designed for use on moving platforms.
> 
> If you simply need a single reference source to enable a demo or a conference 
> for a limited period of time then the absolute accuracy might not matter much 
> ?
> 
> Good luck and best regards
> Mark Spencer
> 
>> 
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>> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 22:29:43 +0100
>> From: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
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>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna??
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>> Hi David yes its ferro-concrete which makes quite a good
>> screen (a lot worse 
>> than domestic brick) but the windows are not coated I think.
>> (BT Labs at 
>> Martlesham)
>> 
>> Thanks all for some thought stimulating ideas .....GPSDO
>> outside might not 
>> be too easy....1U rack case mains powered....no power
>> available outside but 
>> 10MHz (or 5MHz in this case) coupling through wall or window
>> is a lot easier 
>> if I had a battery powered unit.....I have a feeling there
>> may be battery 
>> back-up terminals on it must get the book out.
>> 
>> The windows are SW I think but give a good view of a
>> quadrant of the sky. It 
>> will be interesting to see how long it takes to lock up
>> compared with an 
>> outside antenna.
>> 
>> Thanks and Best Wishes
>> Alan
>> G3NYK
>> 
>> 
>> 
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