Hi If we are now down to a truck sized / house sized area, I'd claim that Loran-C is dead simple to jam. That's what the truck stop gizmos are aimed at.
Bob On Jul 28, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Scott McGrath <[email protected]> wrote: > Key is GPS is EASY to deny for wide areas for both Civillian and military > users > > Loran much less so and eLoran even less due to information carried by signal. > And the larger the area attacked the jammer becomes easier to find due to > signal strength > > There is no doubt that both systems can be spoofed by a sophisticated > attacker. > > It's just that GPS can be nullified by jammers which are available at most > truck and spy shops for under 200 bucks. Legality notwithstanding > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> …. and if a pulse comes up *looking* like the slave …. >> >> Loran-C wanders around enough all by it's self, with no need for help from >> others. Bumping it a bit this way or that is not an impossibility. A little >> bit of added phase this way or that is all it would take. You would have to >> get the rep rate and timing right, but that's just the sort of thing a Time >> Nut knows how to do on the cheap. >> >> Bob >> >> On Jul 28, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In message >>> <cabbxvhsqjbbtpc0wcx3k3e3i2xrk797doyhxnmb8bfluk5b...@mail.gmail.com> >>> , Chris Albertson writes: >>>> I think the GPS backups are called, >>> >>> None of those are usable as backups for GPS, as they use the same >>> low-power Microwave signals as GPS. >>> >>>> But ALL radio navigation systems can be spoofed. The ones you can't spoof >>>> are >>> >>> Loran-C. >>> >>> -- >>> Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 >>> [email protected] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 >>> FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe >>> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
