Hi

Part (but not all) of that is related to handling >= 400KW pulses. A bit of it 
also relates to handling lightning hits on the tower. 

Bob

On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:39 PM, "Tom Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is why they use litz wire, sometimes three inches in diameter for the 
> coils and for the capacity hat.
> 
> The ground system includes miles of buried copper. Capacitors are larger than 
> trash cans and gas filled.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Camp" <[email protected]>
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Spoofing
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Small antennas (all antennas at 100 KHz are small) are not a matter of 
> wavelengths of wire in the air. They are a matter of making do with what you 
> have. Efficiency is more a matter of coil loss (or equivalent) than of 
> antenna size.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> So, given the size of a typical freighter these days, what's so hard about 
>> imagining one with enough wire in the air to make that happen for whatever 
>> political or commercial reason?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Spoofing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> So in this case we're talking about "horrible" to "even more horrible" in 
>>> terms of efficiency. I'll freely grant that a 600' tower over a really good 
>>> ground plane (like say the sea) is going to be way more efficient than 
>>> anything I'd come up with. The same thing would apply to a matching network 
>>> made of coils you can stand up inside compared to anything I'd make.
>>> 
>>> Totally off topic - In the lobby of Continental Electronics they used to 
>>> have this typical transmitter sitting there. You sort of wondered "why". 
>>> After looking at it you figured out the little ant down in the bottom was a 
>>> person. Yes, the coils and "stuff" in Omega transmitters were *big*.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
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