That is why they use litz wire, sometimes three inches in diameter for the coils and for the capacity hat.

The ground system includes miles of buried copper. Capacitors are larger than trash cans and gas filled.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Camp" <[email protected]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Spoofing


Hi

Small antennas (all antennas at 100 KHz are small) are not a matter of wavelengths of wire in the air. They are a matter of making do with what you have. Efficiency is more a matter of coil loss (or equivalent) than of antenna size.

Bob

On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:

So, given the size of a typical freighter these days, what's so hard about imagining one with enough wire in the air to make that happen for whatever political or commercial reason?

Bob





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From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Spoofing


Hi

So in this case we're talking about "horrible" to "even more horrible" in terms of efficiency. I'll freely grant that a 600' tower over a really good ground plane (like say the sea) is going to be way more efficient than anything I'd come up with. The same thing would apply to a matching network made of coils you can stand up inside compared to anything I'd make.

Totally off topic - In the lobby of Continental Electronics they used to have this typical transmitter sitting there. You sort of wondered "why". After looking at it you figured out the little ant down in the bottom was a person. Yes, the coils and "stuff" in Omega transmitters were *big*.

Bob


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