Oh well, 0230 is probably as good a time as any to call it quits for the day:-) I've now tried Win98 and even loaded Win95 on to an old laptop as that and NT was what the GPSTM tool was originally intended to run under and it's still not happy, so it does look to be a non starter, in more ways than one:-) With the GPSTM tool not working the Thunderbolt monitor does seem to be one of the better Trimble options for working with the NTGS50AA and certainly the best under Win95, given that both GPS Monitor and Studio are reporting a missing DLL at the moment. That's probably not too surprising as these are more closely related to each other than they are to most other Trimble products and TBoltMon definitely allows changes to things like the elevation and signal level masks, for example, whereas some of their other software might give the impression it's registering the changes whilst not actually doing anything. It seemed at first that TR Monitor might also be useful, as it allows acces to both of the internal serial ports, but that too now seems a bit suspect. It's always talking to port B, or at least claiming to be, although that's not immediately obvious if the settings are the same, and whilst the indication of both COM port settings did seem potentially quite useful at first it also seems there's a lot more "random" changes to those settings when it's in use, so it's hard to be sure at times if it's just reporting what it sees or reporting what it's done. If nothing else at least it goes to show that turning your back on a Lady with a whip might not be such a good idea after all:-) Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 19/01/2014 01:12:45 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Hi Nigel, The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling the front panel lights. Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack the special features noted above. I too prefer Lady Heather, it is another kind (better) of animal with a lot of other useful things. Regards, Ignacio On 18/01/2014 17:19, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Ignacio > > I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates > exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the > same format as Trimble's various other offerings. > > If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but 1.05 > is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing > "IDLE" in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that. > If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item > "COM Port..." > Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port > and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings. > If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that > standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find > whatever it's set to at the moment. > > I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather > and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1. > > Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings > to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but > I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA. > > I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected changes > at times. > I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules > recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as > well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random, > until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such as > position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and Trimble > Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display. > > It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive > different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc, but > when run with Lady H they reset again. > Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to > investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file that could > be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best > behaved at times either. > > When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the position > data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but I'm > a bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with Trimble's > software and much prefer running them with Lady H anyway. > > Regards > > Nigel > GM8PZR > > > > > In a message dated 18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which > incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). > When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM > Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was > previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a > fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it > seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an > undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if > unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses > to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. > Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the > leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. > Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial > port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find > anything neither in the LH documentation. > > Regards, > Ignacio > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
