In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nicholas Suan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Adrian von Bidder wrote:
>
>>On Friday 09 September 2005 19.32, Brad Knowles wrote:
>>
>>
>>>        The bigger problem is that many abusive clients become even more
>>>abusive when they are denied access.  [...]
>>
>> I see this claimed again and again, and always people speak up to
>> deny it. My experience, too, [...]
>
> Enough clients go berserk  when they don't get a response that I can 
> tell whenver my ntp server isn't responding to queries since the number 
> of incoming packets doubles.
> Like last saturday on this graph: http://vash.nonexiste.net/~FT/ntp-week.png


There may be a subtle difference here that is being overlooked.

It may well be that *abusive* clients that are shut off don't get
worse, or at least not much worse, while *non-abusive* clients start
polling more often or turn into abusive clients.


Both Nicholas and Tim reported stuff getting worse when *all* clients
are effected, while my experience is with how already abusive clients
react.  If I recall correctly, the other people who have reported good
resuts have also specifically limited their blocking to only abusive
clients.



-wayne
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