David wrote:
> I submit that we have long since passed beyond the realm of
> "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" into a philosophical,
> sociocultural, and (dare I say it) moral debate. While I've
> been entertained and provoked (both thought-wise and emotion-
> wise) by some of the posts here (and all sides have raised
> good points), am I alone to suggest that all sides "submit"
> by ending it, at least in this list-wide forum?
If you're referring to the religious debate, I agree--which is
why I withdrew from it after my last message a few days ago.
On the other hand, the perspective being discussed now deals
with the way in which information should be presented to clients and to
students. Certainly, the concept of whether it is appropriate (in a
counseling setting or a psychology classroom) to assert that a woman
should "submit" to her husband in order to have a good marriage is a
valid topic for discussion in this forum.
In large part, the conflict exists because of the negative
connotations of the word "submit" (were "demonstrate concern" or "meet
the needs" substituted for the term, no conflict would exist)--but the
fact that it IS used primarily because it exists as a biblical
injunction rather than as a psychological principle leads to the greater
question of whether the inclusion of ANY form of religious principle in
a psychology classroom or a clinical setting is appropriate--again
questions relevant to TIPS.
> If I am in the minority, I will, of course, submit....
But will you put your collar on and get out your dog bowl and
shackles? ;-)
Rick
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