> I'm not challenging the acheivements of the scientific method and its 
> use in helping us learn more about the phenomenological realm of 
> psychology.  It has been very helpful.

- You certainly are undermining them when you assert that they are as
equivalently based 
- on faith as works written thousands of years ago and with little
scientifically-valid 
- foundations.

I am suggesting that both theist academicians and naturalist
academicians can use the scientific method to study the particular
phenomenology of their discipline.  I don't see the scientific method as
the sole domain of the naturalistic academician.  As someone who
professes a theistic worldview, I use the scientific method all the time
in my research to test hypotheses about the phenomenology of psychology.
I teach my students to critically evaluate what passes for "knowledge"
in psychology.  My students come to me with all sorts of ideas that they
may have heard from their religious texts or classes and I teach them to
evaluate this knowledge from a scientific perspective.  Having a
theistic worldview is not mutually exclusive with academic scholarship.


The underlying assumptions of naturalism, however, need to be accepted
on faith just as much as the underlying assumptions of theism.  What are
the underlying assumptions of naturalism?  Naturalism as a belief system
usually asserts that the material world of nature is all there is, all
there ever has been, and all there ever will be--that nothing
supernatural is real.  If naturalism is true, then there isn't any
higher power or supernatural realm and the only thing that exists is
particles of matter in motion.  These basic assumptions of naturalism
obviously cannot be scientifically proven anymore than the underlying
theist assumptions that a supernatural higher power or realm exists.
They are philosophical statements and not science.  Yet many naturalists
assert these beliefs as fundamental truths and mistakenly equate them
with "science."

I would probably have less problems with naturalists who assert that the
natural world is the only phenomenon that can be scientifically studied,
therefore although it is possible that a supernatural realm exists, we
should limit our empirical investigation to that which should be
scientifically investigated.  I think that is a reasonable position.
Unfortunately, many naturalists are also intolerant about the
possibility of the supernatural and present a naturalistic perspective
that is also decidedly atheistic.  There is a difference between a
naturalist who asserts that the only realm able to be scientifically
studied is the natural realm and the naturalist who vigorously contends
that there is no supernatural realm.  The belief that there *is no*
supernatural realm cannot be scientifically proven just as the belief
that there *is* a supernatural realm cannot be scientifically proven.   

I remember one of my psychology professors who on the first day of class
held up a Bible and asked how many of us believed that the Bible was the
Word of God.  A few students who were more courageous than me raised
their hands.  The professor then threw the Bible in the trashcan and
said that only the uneducated and unintelligent believe in such
superstition and outdated theories.  Most psychologists are probably not
that explicitly demeaning, but a greater number of likely more subtle in
their denigration of theistic worldviews.

Take a look at humanistic theories of personality.  I can use the
scientific method to investigate many of the concepts central to
humanistic perspectives, such as optimal functioning, self-disclosure,
or self-esteem.  We can empirically investigate, to some degree, these
phenomena.  What we can't study, however, are the underlying
philosopical pressupositions of humanistic theories, including the
assertions that humans are the ultimate force and sole masters of their
destiny and that human beings at their core are inherently good and
naturally inclined to make decisions and select choices that will lead
to their self-actualization.  These philosophical assumptions have to be
taken on faith as they cannot be proven scientifically.  As a result,
they will be influenced by one's worldview.  

> And note that you are again equating the legitimacy of a Christian
approach (or
> worldview) to psychology and a natural science approach, as though the
two warrant equal
> treatment.  Sorry, but to me the latter has earned its stripes, the
former hasn't. 
> Hence, it is premature to act as though it were equivalent to and as
legitimate as the
> others at its foundations.

Actually, in my recent posts I haven't mentioned Christianity.  I'm
submitting that both theistic and naturalistic worldviews are based on
philosophical presuppositions that cannot be scientifically proven.
These worldviews will be most evident when we discuss the ontological
and ethical dimensions of our discipline, but less so when we discuss
the phenomenological dimension of our discipline.  I am calling for
psychologists to become more aware of their own worldviews--and the
biases and predispositions that come along with those worldviews--and
how their worldviews influence their presentation of material to their
students.  

Respectfully,

Rod Hetzel

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
(Albert Einstein)

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