Jim, Please read more carefully what I said. I am talking about quality of degree. Levels of educational achievement are up to the individual in what they accomplish while they are attending school. Just because you have a Ph.D. does not mean your OVERALL achievements and educational experiences are better than those with MA. This is why you find many people who hold MA degrees who are more qualified to teach than some Ph.D.'s because they have put in more in getting the MA than what the other person put in to get the Ph.D. It is certainly possible for someone to accumulate and accomplish more educationally in 2-3 years than 4-5 years. Time you spend going to school or levels of degrees is not as important than the actual QUALITY of the degree e.g., research experiences, presentations, publications, grades, letters of recommendations, awards, etc.
Payam --- jim clark <> wrote: > Hi > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Payam Heidary wrote: > > There are people who hold Ph.D.'s who are not > > qualified to be college professors just like there > are > > people with Master's degree who are not qualified. > > What makes you qualified and what should determine > > your pay is NOT which TYPE of degree you hold (MA > vs. > > Ph.D.) but instead what you put into getting the > > degree (QUALITY of the degree) while you were > working > > to earn it. For example, there are people who have > > published more and have more teaching experiences > with > > a Master's degree than some people do with > Ph.D.'s. > > This is what I mean about the QUALITY rather than > the > > TYPE of degree that really matters. This is > another > > big MYTH in our field about types of degrees > > mattering. > > The difference between MA and PhD is not a > difference in type. > It is a difference in level. Just as the MA is a > more advanced > degree than the BA, the PhD is a more advanced > degree than the > MA. The existence of exceptions to a correlation > does not negate > the existence of a correlation. I would certainly > not denigrate > your achievements by saying that the average person > with a BA > could do the same job as the average person with an > MA (and would > probably do it for even less money). The same > should be > appreciated about the achievements of those who went > on to > complete a PhD (with some exceptions, as you noted). > To not even > value the distinctions between no degree, BA, MA, > and PhD is to > discredit the very thing that we are trying to > impart to > students ... i.e., an increasingly demanding level > of > education. As a final comment on this point, many > institutions, > my own included, will _not_ be considering people > without PhDs > for regular, full-time positions, which considerably > reduces > potential positions for people with doctorates, even > if the > purse-strings were opened up a lot. > > Best wishes > Jim > > ============================================================================ > James M. Clark (204) 786-9757 > Department of Psychology (204) 774-4134 Fax > University of Winnipeg 4L05D > Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CANADA http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark > ============================================================================ > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
